We recently learned that Tony Bedard's run on Supergirl will be over shortly and that writers Kate Perkins and Mike Johnson will be taking Kara down a new creative direction.
I have loved Bedard's run on the book as he understood Supergirl and made her more like the character that I love, even in the midst of her becoming a Red Lantern and joining the JLU. I had the opportunity to interview Bedard recently, asking him about his take on Supergirl, his current run, and where he was hoping to take her. It was hard not to be a fanboy. Here is the interview.
Anj: You have had a couple of short runs on two different
incarnations of Supergirl, a brief run on Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes, and even had her in R.E.B.E.L.S.! Have you always been a fan of Supergirl? What do you think of
her as a character? What are her key attributes or character qualities?
TONY: I started reading comics relatively late in life,
around the age of 15. It was the mid ‘80s and the first thing that really
hooked me into superhero comics was Marvel’s SECRET WARS. I was so jazzed by it
that when I heard DC was also doing a mega-event called CRISIS ON INFINITE
EARTHS, I dived into it. So, ironically, my first exposure to Supergirl was her
death in that series. But it left a lasting mark and I have always deeply felt
her importance, even at times when she didn’t seem as important to whatever
“big thing” was happening in comics. As for getting to write SUPERGIRL during
the “Amazons Attack” event, and also getting to write a few issues of SUPERGIRL
AND THE LEGION OF SUPERHEROES, that was sheer, wonderful luck. So, while I’ve
always liked the Supergirl character, I’ve just been fortunate that they asked
me to write her this many times. For me, her key attributes are the things that
come with wearing that “S” on your chest – the responsibility to use your gifts
for the benefit of others, the humility and self-sacrifice to serve the greater
good even though you’re powerful enough to just take what you want. And I think
Supergirl should have a brightness and optimism that matches her youth. She is
filed with promise and potential. She should be an aspirational character, a
role model. I think this can be maintained, even when you’re trying to fill her
stories with teen angst and the sense of confusion and isolation that comes
with being a teenager.
Anj: That vision of her as a young hero, learning the ropes while understanding what her responsibilities is mine as well. And yes, I think she should be an aspirational character as well.
Anj: You wrote three issues in the last incarnation of
Supergirl, between Joe Kelly and Kelly Puckett’s runs. The issues were also
crossovers with Amazons Attack as well as Countdown. What can you tell us about
those issues? Did you ask to write them? They also seems to be an attempt to
rehabilitate her character after a rough portrayal in Amazons and prior stories
where she was angry and isolated. Were you hoping to make her more likable back
then?
TONY: The Amazons Attack issues were offered to me out of
the blue. As a former editor, I know that when you plan these big events,
somebody is bound to drop out, or a creative team gets shifted around, and
suddenly you have to get some issues covered. So when the editor called asking
if I could pinch-hit on SUPERGIRL, I was only too glad to step in. The funny
thing is that I hadn’t been keeping up with SUPERGIRL at the time and didn’t
realize that she’d been portrayed as angry and isolated. I just wrote her as I
thought she should be. As I’ve said in previous interviews, I want my Supergirl
to be likable and upbeat. So even though she was screwing up, crashing Air
Force One, etc., I still wanted her underlying character to be wholesome, well
intentioned and sympathetic.
Anj: I love that the way she acted in those issues was your 'default' Supergirl. That is fantastic. I loved those issues and thought that maybe DC had asked you to soften her edges given the upcoming run.
TONY: But when I think of those issues, what really stands out to
me is how great it was working with Renato Guedes. Holy crap, that guy is amazing! He drew Supergirl like a human being, and he
put those biker pants under her skirt. Thank you, Renato! Maybe I’m just old,
but the LAST thing I want from a SUPERGIRL comic is one of those upskirt shots.
I remember seeing a few people online complain that he had made her “too fat.”
Unbelievable. He made her look like a real girl is what he did.
Anj: Yeah, his stuff is great. I loved how he drew Supergirl here and when she appeared in Superman when he was drawing that book. And don't remind me about the bike shorts debacle. Like you, I thought they made perfect sense.
Anj: I was a big fan of R.E.B.E.L.S. and reviewed it monthly
here. I loved that Supergirl was part of the opening issues. Were there plans
to ever bring her back to the book? Do you miss Vril Dox?
TONY: I miss Vril Dox every day! I even tried to sneak him
back into the DCU in the Villains Month BRAINIAC issue. But I don’t think we’ll
be seeing a New 52 REBELS series any time soon. As for having Supergirl appear
in that series, having written Kara in the 30th Century already, she
seemed like the best person to deliver a message from Brainiac 5 to his
forefather Brainiac 2 (Vril Dox). It was just a guest appearance, but I felt
really good about the way Brainiac 5 sent his message: having her actually
write it on a blank DVD with her heat vision. Cute trick. Y’know, I’ll always
be grateful that DC let REBELS go as far as it did. I think it was 28 issues.
It was one of those times where something was liked internally and they really
gave it a chance. Maybe if the DCU follows in Marvel’s movie footsteps, then
REBELS could be the Guardians of the Galaxy surprise movie hit of 2022…?
Anj: Can you talk about how you ended up on the current
Supergirl book? You have gone on record as saying that you wanted to make the
angry and isolated New 52 Supergirl more likable and relatable. Did you seek
out the assignment? And what were you hoping to bring to the book? Did you know
early on that it was going to be a short run?
TONY: This was another instance of DC calling me and
offering me the gig out of the blue. They knew I was looking for a new project,
but I didn’t specifically lobby for SUPERGIRL. To be honest, it’s hard to get a
gig you’re going after unless it’s a completely new pitch, like I did with
R.E.B.E.L.S. (Yes, I know I was just trying to re-launch the criminally
under-appreciated L.E.G.I.O.N. ’89). Once they gave me SUPERGIRL, what I was hoping
to bring to the book was a supporting cast and a lighter tone -- a moment for
Kara to get past her resentment and embrace her new home. What DC wanted was to
build up her rogue’s gallery and to play up the “stranger in a strange land”
aspect. I tried to give them what they wanted and get the stuff in that I
wanted. It ended up a bit of a mixed bag, but looking back I’m pretty happy
with the run, even if much of it was dealing with characters and situations
that I sort of inherited.
Anj: Knowing how you had treated her in all the prior runs that we've talked about, I was thrilled to hear you were on the book and what your approach was going to be.
Anj: But then shortly after the announcement of you coming on board, we
got the news about Red Daughter. Did you have to adapt your plans dramatically
because of the new plot direction? How closely did you work with Red Lanterns’
writer Charles Soule on the arc?
TONY: I got to work fairly closely with Charles, since it
was his idea to make her a Red Lantern to begin with! And I have to admit that
when it was first presented to me, I wasn’t sold on the idea. I was trying to
take her away from being angry all the time and we were going to make her a
Rage Lantern?! But it didn’t take long to realize this might be the perfect
pivot point for Kara. She couldhit bottom and then end up rejecting anger. So I went along with it, and the great
surprise was that by making her a Red Lantern, we gave her an instant support
network and people to play off of and it turned out to be a great little
storyline. I owe a lot to Charles, especially for making RED LANTERNS a fun,
upbeat read. It made it easier to bring some of that fun to SUPERGIRL.
Anj: I thought Red Daughter was handled very well and actually
showed a more likable and friendly Kara despite the rage ring. Was it hard to write a character who embraced
rage while trying to make her a more heroic and positive person?
TONY: It was surprisingly easy. Kara had been searching for
friends, for a place to belong. After a few really bad turns, she suddenly had
a bunch of people who valued her power and wanted her around (except for Guy
Gardner, who was wise enough to see she shouldn’t be one of them). It all
worked out pretty nicely, with both moments to see her as a hero, and a great
life lesson for Kara. Being a Red Lantern was one of the first times that
people actually cheered for her. She deserved to be wanted for a change and she
finally got a taste of what it felt like.
Anj: You sowed the seeds of future plotlines which may never
come to fruition. Can you tell us what you were planning with Blaze? Siobhan?
Michael? Shay Veritas?
TONY: I was going to have Blaze create a trio of henchgirls
called the Furies. Remember Siobhan’s roommate and her two friends? They were
all orphaned in superhero battles and had sworn themselves to finding a way to
make super-people pay. They were going to beat Supergirl and take her back to
Blaze’s home dimension. Hilarity would ensue. I wanted to get Siobhan in there
more, to make her and Kara a team. I had one issue where the newly Red
Lanterned Kara fights Silver Banshee, and I contrasted their fight with
flashbacks of Kara and Siobhan just having fun roommate moments. That remains
one of my favorite things from the run: just letting her have a friend. Michael
returns in my final issue, and we’ll see if they do anything with him after
that. If not, it was enough that Kara met a guy who had every reason to hate
life and yet retained a positive outlook. He was in many ways a good role model
for her, and he didn’t want to trick or use her, which is nice for a change.
And Shay I wanted to keep playing sort of mysterious. Is she really a friend to
Supergirl, or does she view her as another science project? Shay’s still a bit
of a cypher to me, which is okay if she’s played for mystery. But I liked doing
scenes of her staff at the Block talking about what it’s like being stuck
there, having to wear her face, alternating between admiration and resentment.
It gave the whole Block set-up a little complexity.
Anj: Too bad we won't get the chance to read that Blaze arc. Sounds like a blast. Anyways, as a big Supergirl fan, I just wanted to thank you for
writing such a great Supergirl, a young, positive hero still learning the
ropes. While you have a couple of more issues on your run, any last words for
Supergirl’s fandom?
TONY: I just wish the new team success. Kara’s had a rocky
time since the New 52 launch, but I feel like right now she’s well positioned
to move forward and become a true hero on her own terms. And I wish Emanuela
Lupacchino all the success in the world! She’s an amazing artist and Supergirl
couldn’t be in better hands, art-wise!
Anj: Thanks so much for taking the time to talk to Supergirl fans! Looking forward to your last 2 issues.
