I VIRTUOSI DI CAVE "LIVE IN FLORENCE '78"

This rare recording of I Virtuosi de Cave was provided by the same amonymous donor who helps with Riccardo's posts (more is upcoming)






Eugenio Colombo (as, bar, kazumba)
Roberto Mancini (as, ts)
Alberto Mariani (ts, sop, kazumba)
Tommaso Vittorini (ts, bar, sop)


Recorded live in Florence on July 7th, 1978

(line-up / instruments culled from the Red Records LP)

SCHIAFFINI - IANNACCONE - COLOMBO / S.I.C. "ALTRE PEZZI" (RED RECORD, 1978)

Another reup - these files are most probably from sotise's original post in 2009.
Not tracked - so we have each side as one track.


Giancarlo Schiaffini, tenor, bass and contralto trombone, zink, voice
Eugenio Colombo, alto saxophone, flute, bass clarinet, zink, voice
Michele Iannaccone, percussion, drums, glockenspiel, voice


A1. Pezzo Con Ritegno (Scusa)     6:33
A2. Pezzuola     3:33
A3. Pezzo Tanto Per Dire     2:33
A4. Pezzo Per Finta     1:33
A5. Pezzoide     1:27
A6. Pezzo Ellittico     2:23
A7. Pezzo Ovale     3:02
B1. Pezzo Di Profilo     2:53
B2. Pezzo Sul Ramo     3:32
B3. Pezzettino     2:03
B4. Pezzo Di Genere Con Rovine     3:38
B5. Pezzariello     0:39
B6. Pezzutello D'uva     1:16
B7. Pezzo Sul Panchetto     3:35



Recorded at Barigozzi Studio in Milano, Italy on September 30, 1978.

Red Record VPA 137  (vinyl rip)


Following is the original text by sotise:

Here's the other record on Red by the Sic Trio, as LYM points out in his post these are essential documents of the Italian free scene in the late 70's.
Not quite as anarchic as either the German free scene as documented by FMP or the British and Dutch Scenes , it has its own distinctive identity and is as far from generic plink plonk caricature's as one could hope for.
I can't add all that much to LYM's review of Pezzo, the second album by the trio.
Except that these records have been richly rewarding over the years for me as a listener.
Giancarlo Schiaffini, it has to be said is one of the late 20th century masters both as a composer (of electronic, chamber and orchestral music), jazz player and free improvising trombonist..his technique and breadth of invention is the equal to any better known name...these records are breathtakingly stunning and deserve wider currency.

It's a little known fact that Red records were in the vanguard of Italian labels documenting 'free improvised music' in the late 70's.

However by the early eighties, clearly influenced by the 'neo classical' zeitgeist permeating through from the states, they more or less reversed their exploratory program to focus on music in a much more conventional hard bop mode... with a few exceptions most of their early catalog has not been reissued and seems unlikely to be, a real pity since they document an underrated, VERY under documented scene.

this is another Rip from Iain's Collection!

SCHIAFFINI - IANNACCONE - COLOMBO / S.I.C. "PEZZO" (RED RECORD, 1978)

I've adopted this post by LYM. Here's so much information - thought it's better to "hijack" this early IS post than to create a new one with less info.

Giancarlo Schiaffini, bass & contralto trombone, voice, zink
Eugenio Colombo, flute, alto saxophone, bass clarinet, voice, zink
Michele Iannaccone, percussion, glockenspiel, drums, voice


A1. Pezzacchio A Pezzi  (Bad Piece in Pieces)    6:14
A2. Tre Pezzi D'Autore  (Three author’s pieces)   11:21
A3. Pezzente   (Beggar)  2:36
B1. 503 Pezzi Facili  (503 Easy Pieces)   10:37
B2. Pezzo  (Piece)   9:04


Recorded at Barigozzi Studio, Milano, Italy on September 29, 1978.


Red Record VPA 136 (vinyl rip from my copy)

 And here follows the original text from July 2009 (minus the track-listing):

Here am I. This is my first front page post here.

The album I’ve chosen is a corner stone in free Italian improvised music. This is an almost rare recording, never re-issued on cd, played by one of the first and most important groups in free jazz and improvised music in Italy and perhaps in Europe. Schiaffini and Colombo are master players of their instrument, so this isn’t naive music, isn’t easy to play, technically and for the interplay that requires, music mostly improvised by “total musicians” equally at home with free improvisations, classical contemporary music and folklorical.

If I should find musical roots to this music I can quote: the AEOC, classical contempory music (Vinko Globokar with which Schiaffini studied is the player for which Luciano Berio wrote his Sequenza V for solo trombone, folklorical-mediterranean music.

Before this session Schiaffini had recorded only one album under his name (in 1973) and Colombo two others for the same Red Record this was their first collaboration with this amazing trio who produced two albums in two days at the end of September 1978.

Two annotations: as said in the cover notes irony plays an important role in this music (generally in Italian free-improvised music) so the titles are impossible to translate, being a refined game about the use of the Italian word “pezzo”.

Cover notes (translated from Italian)

Giancarlo Schiaffini is one of the better known in avant-garde and new music in Rome. His story is not so long to tell but it’s rich. Born in Rome in 1942, graduated in Physics in his hometown University; self-taught as a musician, he early devoted himself to jazz contributing, with the “Gruppo Romano Free Jazz”, to one of the first experience of free improvised music in Italy.

Lately he took an interest in European contemporary music; in 1970 he studied in Darmstadt with Karlheinz Stockausen, Gyorgy Ligety, and Vinko Globokar (the master trombone player) and in Rome with Evangelisti. In the same 1970 founded the chamber music group named “Nuove Forme Sonore” (“New Shapes Of Sound”). He plays trombone, and recently has become a member of the Giorgio Gaslini sextet, and has played in many concert dates. Today he teaches at the Pesaro conservatory.

His fellow musicians in this album had played with him many times and they too “have their papers in order”. Eugenio Colombo plays flute, alto sax, bass clarinet (in one track, as does Schiaffini, plays the zink, the ‘18thcentury “cornetto” similar to a recorder with the trumpet’s mouthpiece).

He has played in many avant-garde groups in Rome and has a particular knowledge of folklorical (mostly Mediterranean) music, drummer and percussionist Michele Iannaccone has combined classical musical studies with jazz and improvised experimental music All these experiences are the basis of the music here contained; this record don’t want to be a “jazz record” even if the approach of the players to their intstruments is a jazz one and the derivation from American free jazz is evident. We can better define this music as improvised music: the structures aren’t initially given, are the last result of a collective work in which “alea” plays an important role. The music is the result of a workshop or a collective searching work during many sessionsof improvisation, in this music the feeling and creativity of every single musician interacts with that of the others. The preliminary conditions for similar adventures in the world of sounds are the mutual experiences and similar musical directions of the musicians involved. This mutual experiences narrow the alea’s action field and allow the musicians to centre towards an acceptable and coherent musical result. The last goal of such a collective work is the expression, at a starting point, of the individual sensibility and creativity: to quote Joyce this is a musical “stream of consciousness”. For this reason you do wrong if you try to appreciate this music using musical parameters taken from one or another musical culture. Lookin’ for swing (mostly loved by jazzfans) in this music would be a nonsense, the jazz education of this musician is teared to shreds as the ruins of a disappeared civilitazion: Here we have: the sound, a broken phrasing by the trombone, airy percussions, the sounds (and noises) produced by the instruments played by Colombo, that’s all. The conception is different and so totally different are the results. To appreciate this music you need a great concentration, but first of all an intellectual agreement to the “modus operandi” of these musicians, a wide open and clear mind, free from taboos and preconceived ideas.

Simply read the title tracks: they are the antithtesis of what we normally mean for a “plan”. The title tracks, instead , are a declaration of war (with irony as only weapon) against every plan.

Arrigo Polillo

This choice is a "thanks" to sotise/sotisier who gave me the opportunity of posting in this marvellous place.

Thanks again.

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Enjoy the Music! :-)

Gruppo Immediato - Live in Lovere '79

Some of the best Italian musicians gathered in an extemporaneous
group (immediato) that hasn't left any official recording.

Rec. live in Lovere, Italy, on June 17, 1979 (mix recording)

Gianluigi Trovesi,alto sax & bass clarinet
Eugenio Colombo,alto sax & flute
Giancarlo Schiaffini,trombone
Martin Joseph,piano
Paolo Damiani,bass
Michele Iannacone/Gianni Cazzola,drums

1. Collective Improvisation + Intro (05:49)
2. P.Damiani Composition (15:03)
3. E.Colombo Composition (10:01)
4. G.Schiaffini Composition (15:35)
5. G.Trovesi Composition (11:58)

Total Time 58:29

excerpt from track #2

Grande Elenco Musicisti - Live in Lovere '78

The Grande Elenco Musicisti was a large ensemble born from
the great passion that T.Vittorini (arranger, composer, member
of I Virtuosi Di Cave, Mario Schiano's collaborator)
always had towards the Big-Band's sound.
To the time of this recording Vittorini was 23, as more or less,
the other members of the band.

Rec. live in Lovere, Italy, on July 2, 1978
(mics recording)

Michelangelo Piazza/Alberto Corvini,trumpet
Danilo Terenzi,bass trombone
Giancarlo Maurino,baritone & tenor sax
Eugenio Colombo,baritone sax,flute
Alberto Mariani,tenor,baritone & soprano sax
Maurizio Giammarco,tenor & soprano sax,flute
Tommaso Vittorini,alto & soprano sax,conductor,arranger
Michele Iannacone,percussions,vibraphone
Antonello Salis,piano
Marzio Zoffoli,guitar
Enzo Pietropaoli,bass & electric bass
Roberto Gatto,drums

01. Summer Treat [T.Vittorini] (05:04)
02. Intro to G Pleasure (02:02)
03. G Pleasure [M.Giammarco] (07:38)
04. Intro to Hidaqua (0:51)
05. Hidaqua [E.Colombo] (07:46)
06. Intro to Fiabe Urbane (01:06)
07. Fiabe Urbane [T.Vittorini] (18:32)
08. Intro to Ultimi Giorni Di Solfeggio (0:12)
09. Ultimi Giorni Di Solfeggio [T.Vittorini] (06:19)
10. Intro to Falegname Per Amore (0:48)
11. Falegname Per Amore [T.Vittorini] (18:36)
12. Intro to First House (0:29)
13. First House [M.Melis] (11:05)

Total Time 1:20:34

E. Rava & M.Mengelberg Octet + RAI B.B. - Live in Rome '80

Ninth event/concert for the series "I Concerti di Un Certo Discorso".
A very long concert divided into two set : each set in a folder.

here the complete list of all concerts.

Rec. live at "Teatro dell'Opera", Rome, Italy, on May 19, 1980
(radio broadcast)

Enrico Rava,trumpet
Ray Anderson,trombone
Renato Geremia,violin,tenor saxophone
Eugenio Colombo,alto saxophone,flute
Larry Fishkind,tuba
Misha Mengelberg,piano
Giovanni Tommaso,bass
Han Bennink,drums,reeds
+
RAI B.B. :
Nino Culasso/Doriano Beltrame/Cicci Santucci/Oscar
Valdambrini,tp - Giancarlo Beccattini/Marco Pellacani/
Gennaro Baldino/Dino Piana,tb - Gianni Oddi/Baldo
Maestri/Sal Genovese/Beppe Carrieri/Carlo Metallo,reeds
- Pino Rucher,gt - Carlo Zoffoli,vib

1. Fragments Suite [E.Rava] (1:16:59)
2. Eight Reflections Of The Crocodile Silopo [M.Mengelberg] (1:07:40)

Total Time 2:24:39

Colombo, Mancini, Mariani, Vittorini - I VIRTUOSI DI CAVE -RED Record VPS 131

Another unbelievably OOP vinyl from the italian RED Record catalogue.
Once again, as still well pointed out by sotise in a previous italian music post, this missing reissue underlines the musical limits of the RR producer. To better say underlines mostly his choice of definitely more traditional, conventional and, at least to me, boring improvised music.But how much more easy to sell in Europe and Outside of it?
Here is an italian saxophone quartet (all the members are multireed players) leaded by the greatly underrated Eugenio Colombo, at least in my opinion, who recorded in 1977,in Rome, an astonishing and still fresh today album. The first Rova recording dates to july 1978 (Cinemè Rovatè) and the first WSQ to june 1977 (Point Of No Return). It seems to me almost unbelievable that in the provincial Italy some genuine musical talents could record in december 1977 such an unpredictable, fresh and compelling attempt. Tecnichal mastery (especially by Colombo), a very fine and mature balance of written and improvised parts, deep reference to mediterranean traditional music (Colombo is an expert of mediterranean music and of circular breath technique), a subtle irony, the fun and joy of playin togheter, all this contribute to the success of this music. This is, to my knowledge, the only document of a seminal group. Even the Colombo recordings aren't so easy to find. His partecipation to the Italian Instabile Orchestra isn't his first and most important outcome but an important arrival point of a deep and uncorrupted musical mind.

Translated from the liner notes:

The VIRTUOSI DI CAVE is a group of four young sax players that for since some years gather themselves in an old house in Cave near Rome. There they study and try new musical shapes in which improvisation and composition can blend givin such way life to a new music. That music stand in the traced field of european and italian classical contemporary music, but distinguish for its originality and the totally new ensemble of four reed players. The tracks here are mostly written with clear references to the mediterranean and oriental folklorical musical tradition but using an european avant-garde composing method. The collective playing, the counterpoin, the timbrical and harmonical choices, the playing and interpreting techniques all those musical facts are used for a control of the improvised parts as planned by the compositions. Colombo, Mancini, Mariani e Vittorini all take part to the activities of the Testaccio's Music Popular School in Rome.

Chicco Tagliaferri

Colombo, Mariani, Mancini, Vittorini
I Virtuosi di Cave, RED Record (It) VPA131

Eugenio Colombo (as, bar, kazumba)
Roberto Mancini (as, ts)
Alberto Mariani (ts, sop, kazumba)
Tommaso Vittorini (ts, bar, sop)

Rome, December 1977

1. Il granchio verde [19:35]
   
2. Ethnomusicology [11:00]
3. Zanzare immense [01:45]
4. Pottosfera [5:25]

All compositions written by Eugenio Colombo


ENJOY THE MUSIC!

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Sic Trio-Pezzo(Red record vpa136) Covers

For those interested , here are the covers to Lym's great first post here on this blog... see below.
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