I heard a couple statements from our current President, Barak Obama that jumped out to me. Here they are with references:
1st Statement:
EOB: All of that, thirty years after Dr. King and the civil rights movement. This seems almost
incredible to me, at times, to think that in thirty years, this is all the progress we’ve been able to make?
Obama: Well, you know, it is frustrating, I think. I talk a lot in the book about my attempts to renew the dream that both of my parents had. I worked as a community organizer in Chicago, [and] was very active in low-income neighborhoods working on issues of crime and education and employment, and seeing that in some ways certain portions of the African-American community are doing as bad, if not worse, and recognizing that my fate remained tied up with their fates. That my individual salvation is not going to come about without a collective salvation for the country. Unfortunately, I think that recognition requires that we make sacrifices, and this country has not always been willing to make the sacrifices necessary to bring about a new day and a new age. (source: Eye's on Books Interview with Barack Obama 8/9/95)
2nd Statement:
"Each of you will have the chance to make your own discovery in the years to come. And I say “chance” because you won’t have to take it. There’s no community service requirement in the real world; no one forcing you to care. You can take your diploma, walk off this stage, and chase only after the big house and the nice suits and all the other things that our money culture says you should by. You can choose to narrow your concerns and live your life in a way that tries to keep your story separate from America’s.But I hope you don’t. Not because you have an obligation to those who are less fortunate, though you do have that obligation. Not because you have a debt to all those who helped you get here, though you do have that debt.It’s because you have an obligation to yourself. Because our individual salvation depends on collective salvation. Because thinking only about yourself, fulfilling your immediate wants and needs, betrays a poverty of ambition. Because it’s only when you hitch your wagon to something larger than yourself that you realize your true potential and discover the role you’ll play in writing the next great chapter in America’s story." Candidate Obama said this in a 2008 commencement address to Wesleyan University.
Back to my thoughts:
It really bothered me to hear the concept taught that we are not saved individually but collectively. Oh, that is so untrue and wrong, it goes against all church doctrine. This all goes back to the war in heaven where we were presented with God's plan. Christ volunteered to carry out the plan and give the glory to God, which allowed for us individually to make our own choices - thus moral agency. However, Satan's plan was for us to all return to heaven and the Glory would be his not God's. How could we all return to heaven? There would obviously be no choice or accountability (I know this is a lot in a nutshell).
We have been taught the principal of individual salvation by many church leaders, although that terminology isn't usually how it is referenced. I hope you take the time to read the quotes below.
Quote 1:
"The development of faith in the Lord is an individual matter. Repentance is also an individual matter. Only as an individual can one be baptized and receive the Holy Ghost. Each of us is born individually; likewise, each of us is “born again” individually. Salvation is an individual matter." (Russell M. Nelson, “Salvation and Exaltation,” Liahona, May 2008, 7–10)
Quote 2:
"Why cannot salvation be entirely an individual matter? It is individual, in one sense, but salvation in its fullest sense involves other people [as families we are here to help each other]. Families, for example, are the essential units of exaltation; and it is only through the covenants received in the temple that the family acquires an eternal nature. Moreover, we receive strength and support and are given opportunities to grow by associating with others who have made the same covenants we have. (Robert J. Matthews, “Our Covenants with the Lord,” Ensign, Dec 1980, 33–34)
Quote 3:
"We have been sent here to work out our individual salvation through the tests and challenges of daily life. We cannot do that by relying heavily upon the borrowed light of someone else’s testimony. As we receive inspiration when we hear prophets, leaders, and peers bear their testimonies, those spiritual feelings should further enhance our desire to strengthen our own convictions." (Donald L. Staheli, “Securing Our Testimonies,” Liahona, Nov 2004, 37–39)
Quote 4:
"While our individual salvation is based on our individual obedience, it is equally important that we understand that we are each an important and integral part of a family and the highest blessings can be received only within an eternal family." (Robert D. Hales, “The Eternal Family,” Ensign, Nov 1996, 64)
This next excerpt comes from a great talk that explains what salvation and exaltation means - one is given to all men through Christ's sacrifice and the other is a gift available to us dependent on our obedience to His laws and the covenants we have made with Him.
Quote 5:
"What does it mean when people say, “I am saved”? Generally it means they are saved from death. This type of general salvation comes to all people by the grace of God alone. General salvation comes regardless of obedience to gospel principles or laws and results solely in resurrection from the dead. In this respect, salvation is synonymous with immortality, in that the resurrected person will live forever. Resurrection comes to every person born into this world through the sacrifice made by Jesus Christ, whether one confesses Christ or not. Whether a person is wicked or righteous, each person will receive the gift of immortality through Jesus Christ....
All mankind will thus receive general salvation...The true value of the sacrifice of Christ means much more than this general salvation which comes to all mankind. There is an additional salvation that God has planned for his children. This additional salvation is an individual salvation and is conditioned not only upon grace, but also upon obedience to gospel law." (Theodore M. Burton, “Salvation and Exaltation,” Ensign, Jul 1972, 78)
7 comments:
I hear what you're saying. I would only add that our individual salvation in large part hinges on our acquisition of charity -- our ability to lose ourselves in the service of others. That can't be brought about by external means, but is still the goal. Our salvation is the result of the atonement combined with ordinances, and the appropriate use of our agency -- becoming like our Savior in a covenental relationship. The Lord tells us through Paul that it doesn't matter what we do or how we do it, without charity as the underlying motivator, it doesn't matter. Paul's discourse on Charity is one of my favorite passages of scripture and I've made it an object of intense study over the years. Not charity as in St. Jude's Children's Fund, but Charity with the big "C". I am certainly singing to the choir as you know all this stuff and live it far better than I. Thanks for letting me sermonize at you.
Thanks for sharing Suzanne, you explained that very well. I will have to go look up Paul's discourse on charity. The closer we draw to our Savior and our Heavenly Father the more our ability to serve others increases because we become more aware, more sensitive, more willing, and more capable of relying on the assistance of the spirit to lead and guide us.
Keep 'em coming, I love these discussions!
Okay. Just tell me if I did this right.....
I liked Elder Russell M. Nelson's comment in his October 2008 Conference talk on Celestial Marriage where he said, "While salvation is an individual matter, exaltation is a family matter."
Thanks for sharing Linda!
Hi Tiffany, it is Amy from Bristol Heights here. I just read your entry and the quotes within it. I have to say that I actually was really impressed by President Obama's second quote in particular. I feel what he was saying to those college graduates was that they had two choices: they could go forth from college and focus only on themselves, or they could go forth from college and make a positive impact in the world by reaching out to others and making the world a better place. He was saying that we all have an obligation to our "neighbors" and that we are not in it just for ourselves. Isn't that what we believe???
Joseph Smith, when speaking of salvation says in D&C 128:15, "...let me assure you that these are principles in relation to the dead and the living that cannot be lightly passed over, as pertaining to our salvation. For their salvation is necessary and essential to our salvation...that they without us cannot be made perfect--neither can we without our dead be made perfect."
I also found this quote in a general conference talk by David B. Haight (Nov. 1990 Ensign):
"John A. Widtsoe provides insight to an earth-life responsibility made in that premortal world which is of great importance. He highlights a contractual agreement we made concerning the eternal welfare of all of the sons and daughters of the Eternal Father:
“In our preexistent state, in the day of the great council, we made an … agreement with the Almighty. The Lord proposed a plan. … We accepted it. Since the plan is intended for all men, we became parties to the salvation of every person under that plan. We agreed, right then and there, to be not only saviors for ourselves but … saviors for the whole human family. We went into a partnership with the Lord. The working out of the plan became then not merely the Father’s work, and the Savior’s work, but also our work. The least of us, the humblest, is in partnership with the Almighty in achieving the purpose of the eternal plan of salvation.”"
In the end it does come down to individual choices and actions, but it is my hope that my choices will have been to love, to serve, and to help as many as I can along the way. Just some thoughts...
Great insight Amy - I understand what you are sharing. My bottom line concern with this whole topic is as you said "individual choice".
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