Showing posts with label Indiana Jones. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Indiana Jones. Show all posts

Tuesday, August 20, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 15

Could Crystal Skull really be that bad? Yes... yes, it could. Still, it had some good things, right?

Question: "Say three good things about The Crystal Skull."

Scott's Answer: 1. My standard cop out answer again - the music. John Williams on autopilot is still better than most composers on their best day. The new themes he wrote for Agent Spalko and the Skulls aren't nearly as exciting or memorable as his various Nazi marches for the previous films (or the mine car chase!) but you can't help but smile when you hear the Indy theme kick in for the first time.

2. Harrison Ford - yes, he's a senior citizen but he can still kick ass!

3. Spielberg still knows how to orchestrate action. He may have lost something when it comes to picking good scripts but when it comes to blocking action, planning shots, etc., he can still do it.


Andrew's Answer: 1. This feels so wrong, but I’m warming up to Shia Lebouf as Mutt.

2. I like the intro a good deal... until they set off the atomic bomb.

3. I like the 1950s feel of the college sequence with the motorcycle chase and everything. Yes, there are stupid points, but the look and the feel is pretty good.
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Tuesday, August 13, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 14

Sometimes, special effects aren't so special. But sometimes they really are!

Question: "What was the best and the worst effect in the series?"

Andrew's Answer: Worst is an easy one. It's in Crusade, when the fighter plane crashes and slides through the tunnel, on fire, next to Jones and his father, and the pilot looks at them stupidly. That moment alone takes me out of the film so badly that it almost ruins the entire movie for me. Best effect was in Raiders when the wall of fire sweeps up the Nazis, moves the clouds, and seals the Ark. Awesome.

Scott's Answer: The best effect might be the face melting scene at the end of Raiders - a good mix of state-of-the-art technology (for 1981) and some old school tricks. Honorable mention goes to the mine car chase in Doom, which was shot using modified still cameras - I'd put it against any chase in a movie today. Worst effect goes to anything in Crusade involving the zeppelin and the biplane - there is some really bad bluescreen compositing here and it sticks out like a sore thumb. I don't know if it was a logistical thing or if all of ILM's resources were devoted to another movie that came out the same year.

Those were "best" and "worst" - in the "unforgivable" category is the jungle chase in Crystal Skull. For a film that came out in 2008 to have such shoddy bluescreen work is ridiculous. I'd forgive it in a low-budget indie flick but this is Spielberg and Lucas: two kings of modern day movie tech. I remember watching the making-of featurette on the Cloverfield Blu-Ray around the same time and I asked my friend, "Why does Cloverfield have better effects than the Spielberg movie?!"
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Tuesday, August 6, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 13

Sometimes, dialog is perfect. It says just the right thing in a way that cannot be said better. Sometimes, it's painful to listen to and it makes you cringe.

Question: "What was the best/worst line of dialog in the series?"

Scott's Answer: Jeez, where to start?! These are some of the most quotable films in history. Even though he quotes someone else, I've always been fond of Henry Jones' line, "I suddenly remembered my Charlemagne: 'Let my armies be the rocks and the trees and the birds in the sky.'" Also: "It's not the years, honey; it's the mileage." Worst line? Almost anything in Crystal Skull, especially anything uttered by John Hurt. I've never felt so embarrassed for an actor!

Andrew's Answer: The line that sticks with me also becomes a bit of frustration. In Raiders, Marcus Brody delivers this amazing line about how the Ark is not meant to be discovered: "Marion's the least of your worries right now... I mean that for nearly three thousand years man has been searching for the lost ark. Its not something to be taken lightly. No one knows its secrets. Its like nothing you've ever gone after before." This line perfectly sets up the entire movie. It's mystical, it's warning, and it's philosophical, all at once. This is one of those lines that defines a film. And it is this line which really pains me when they turn Brody into a fool in Crusade. A fool would not have delivered this line. Honorable mention, "you could warn them. . . if only you spoke Hovitos."

Worst line of dialog is a good question. Most of Crystal Skull probably qualifies, but I'm going back to Crusade for the entire scene involving Sallah and Brody, where Brody acts like an idiot while Sallah keeps telling Brody "Run!" as if the English speaking Germans somehow wouldn't know.
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Tuesday, July 30, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 12

You know what? That dude has some awesome stories to tell, they should make a movie about him!

Question: "What minor character captured your imagination and deserves a spin off?"

Andrew's Answer: The character who absolutely caught my attention was Katanga, the captain of the freighter upon which Jones and Marion try to escape Egypt with the Ark. This guy is a borderline pirate prowling the seas at an interesting time. I'll bet his story would have made a heck of a film... much better than The Shadow or The Phantom.

Scott's Answer: I'd love to see the early years of Henry Jones Sr. (Paging Daniel Craig?) Then again, considering Lucas' track record with prequels and spinoffs... perhaps not. If not Jones Sr., then perhaps Wu Han, Indy's ally at the beginning of Doom. "I've followed you on many adventures... but into the great unknown mystery, I go first, Indy!"
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Tuesday, July 23, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 11

As with Star Wars the Indiana Jones series really isn't a comedy and there is little in the way of comic relief characters... until they messed up Marcus Brody. Still, it has hilarious moments.

Question: "What was the funniest moment in the series?"

Scott's Answer: Probably in Crusade (which can be a little too lighthearted at times) when Indy finds out he and his dad slept with the same woman. Spielberg films it wonderfully and Ford and Connery both have some great reactions.

Andrew's Answer: For my money, there is nothing funnier than when Jones shoots the swordsman in Raiders. When that happened, the theater erupted and I still chuckle whenever I see it today.
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Tuesday, May 28, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 10

Great stunts make a movie great. Bad stunts, stunt growth. And the Indiana Jones series, like all films, has both good and bad stunts.

Question: "What was the best and the worst stunt?"

Scott's Answer: Best stunt? The truck chase in Raiders. It's absolutely perfect and I don't want to know how many bumps and bruises Harrison Ford and his stuntman (Vic Armstrong) suffered. Worst stunt? I won't count Shia of the Jungle since that was mostly done with visual effects. Now that I go with it, there aren't really and bad stunts, per se. Sure, there's the "Nuke the Fridge" sequence which might've been ill-conceived but there was nothing wrong with the execution.

Andrew's Answer: Yeah, the best stunt is the truck chase. You just can't beat that. It's so perfect it's iconic. I give an honorable mention to when Jones falls to the floor in the temple and ends up face to face with the cobra. Sadly, this stunt has been ruined a bit by the ability of people to go frame by frame as this allowed people to see that there is glass between Jones and the snake. For worst, I have to go with the whole chase through the jungle in Crystal Skull because it's just ridiculous. The whole concept is ridiculous in fact -- the speed with which they are cutting down trees, how smoothly the whole process goes and how the vehicles are driving along like they are on a highway, how they are jumping back and forth because there's no more jungle anymore, etc. Ahhhhh!! My disbelief!
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Tuesday, May 21, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 9

We all know Raiders is just a mess of a movie, right? It needs a lot of changes before audiences will want to watch it.

Question: "How would you change Raiders itself?"

Scott's Answer: I hate to give such a vague answer but I'd trim it by five to ten minutes. I feel it drags a little at times, but only a little, and I don't feel that way about Doom or Crusade.

Andrew's Answer: Huh. Hmm. I can't think of anything, really. Hmm. Ok, how's this. I would change the submarine to a destroyer so people would stop saying Jones would drown. That's really all that comes to mind.

Looks like we need some help with this one!
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Tuesday, May 14, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 8

According to the new Fairness Laws, Harrison Ford has starred in more than his fair share of popular roles. So he needs to give some up.

Question: "Recast Indiana Jones himself."

Andrew's Answer: I can think of a bevy of similar actors from the time (Pullman, Boxleitner, Bridges, Quaid, etc.), but none of them would be right. I like the idea of Liam Neeson, but he didn't get his gravitas until he was too old for the role. Even standby Hugh Jackman just wouldn't be right. So I'm going with a surprise. . . George Clooney. I think he's one of the few actors who can mix arrogance with innocent and tough with struggling and still have the audience really like him.

Scott's Answer: It would be easy to pick Tom Selleck, who would've been Indiana Jones if it weren't for his TV commitments. Instead, I'll go with Kurt Russell. He definitely could do the action adventure stuff, though he may have been a little too young to be believable as a bespectacled college professor. (Maybe if the films were released five years later.)
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Tuesday, April 16, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 7

Joe Camel has nothing on Indiana Jones when it comes to cool. Jones oozes cool, and so do his films.

Question: "What was the coolest moment in the series?"

Scott's Answer: You're probably thinking, "When Indy shoots the Cairo swordsman." But for me, the coolest moment in the series is in Doom when Indy, after breaking the spell that Mola Ram had on him, punches out one of the Thugee guys. We see the slave children working as the guy literally gets punched into the frame. Then we cut to Indy, backlit and looking all badass.

Andrew's Answer: The coolest moment is when the Nazis are talking in the camp and the plane explodes over the hill and they say one word: "Jones!" What bigger compliment can you give than knowing right away that anything that goes wrong is because of one man?
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Tuesday, March 5, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 6

Some films are simply better than others. Yep. It's not even a matter of taste, it's a matter of right and wrong. . . moral and immoral.

Question: "Rank the movies from best to worst."

Scott's Answer: Duh! Raiders is #1, followed by Doom and Crusade tied for #2, then Romancing the Stone, then The Rocketeer, then National Treasure, then The Mummy, and then Crystal Skull. [grin]

Andrew's Answer: Scott is a clever man and I lament the fact I didn't think of what he did. :( So I'll just go with a straight up ranking. Raiders of the Lost Ark is heads and shoulders above the rest. I reluctantly list Lost Crusade next, despite misgivings I have about the film. Next comes Temple of Doom, which is admitted getting better in hindsight. Finally, Crystal Skull, which is just so hard to like.
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Tuesday, February 26, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 5

Perhaps we are a bit Lucasian here, but we like to change things.

Question: "How would you change The Last Crusade?"

Andrew's Answer: I have some problems with this film. For one thing, I don't really care for the intro. I paid to see Harrison Ford, not some kid pretending to be Harrison Ford. I also don't like the cutesy moments, like when he meets Hitler or when the fighter plane slides through the tunnel. I hate that they made Marcus Brody into a fool. And honestly, let him keep the cup.

Scott's Answer: I love this movie - it's perfect summer entertainment. However, I think turning Marcus Brody (Denholm Elliot) into a bumbling fool was a mistake. Granted, we had only seen him in Raiders for ten minutes but he came across as a knowledgeable professional, not a stumblebum. The interplay between Ford and Connery was funny and entertaining enough that the filmmakers didn't need an "extra" source of comic relief on top of that.
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Tuesday, February 19, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 4

The hero get the glory, but the supporting cast makes a film work. And Jones has a heck of a supporting cast in his adventures.

Question: "Who is your favorite supporting character?"

Scott's Answer: There aren't that many to choose from, but I'll go with Sallah. John Rhys-Davies is always entertaining to watch and the character is just a decent family man. He also gets one of the best lines: "Asps. Very dangerous. You go first."

Andrew's Answer: I wanted to say someone other than Sallah, as he is the obvious choice, but he's just such a fantastic character, played so well by an excellent actor, that it's impossible not to pick him.
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Wednesday, January 30, 2013

MacGuffin With Cheese

All right, I’m going to upset Scott a bit. Sorry, my friend. I’m going to talk about MacGuffins and why the Sankara stones in Temple of Doom are not a good MacGuffin.

You may have heard the term “MacGuffin” bandied about at the site or at other film sites or even in interviews with directors or writers. The term is generally attributed to Alfred Hitchcock, though it actually is older than that. A MacGuffin is the object that motivates the characters’ actions in a story. In a heist film, it’s the money the heroes want to steal from the bank vault. In a spy story, it’s the film the hero needs to retrieve. But there’s more to it than that.

Being a MacGuffin also implies that the object itself is actually irrelevant to the story. In other words, it doesn’t matter what the object is, all that matters is that it motivates the characters. Indeed, most MacGuffins could actually be swapped out for something else without a change to the plot. For example, in a heist film it doesn’t matter if the characters are trying to steal cash, or diamonds, or an envelope or a giant poodle; all that matters is that the protagonist is interested in the object enough to steal it.

Quentin Tarantino made great use of this idea in Pulp Fiction, when he made the film about the pursuit of a briefcase but never let the audience know what’s in the briefcase. That’s actually the ultimate MacGuffin because it doesn’t even exist, yet it’s driving the story. Another good example is “the process” in David Mamet’s Spanish Prisoner. All you know is that this is something secret and scientific, which will bring tremendous opportunities to whoever has it. It is important enough that an elaborate scheme is created to steal it. . . yet, you never even get hints about what it is.

Both of those examples prove what Hitchcock said about the MacGuffin because they motivate the plot but the fact we never even find out what they are proves that they are actually meaningless.

Interestingly, the Maltese Falcon is a MacGuffin, so is “Rosebud” in Citizen Kane, so is the nuclear weapon in Thunderball. Again, in each case, those objects motivate the characters to act but what they are is irrelevant to the plot itself. Some have suggested that the Ark of the Covenant in Raiders is a MacGuffin. I don’t agree with that, however, because the Ark eventually kills the Nazis and frees Indiana Jones, i.e. it causes plot apart from the characters’ motivation and thus cannot be a MacGuffin.

That brings me to the Sankara stones in Temple of Doom. Are these a MacGuffin? Yes, but they’re not a good one. The problem with these stones is that while the nature of the MacGuffin doesn’t matter, it is important that a MacGuffin seem important enough to motivate the characters’ actions. Thus, for example, a heist for an undisclosed amount of money makes sense to us, but a heist for $1.50 or for a wallet full of bills does not make sense to us. The Sankara stones are that $1.50.

If Indiana Jones doesn’t retrieve the stones. . . well, nothing really horrible happens. According to Jones himself, these fabled stones promise fortune and glory, and we don’t care if the villain has stones giving him vague promises of greater wealth and success. We also know Jones isn’t interested in that either, so what does he really care about retrieving the stones for a meaningless village in the middle of nowhere? In other words, this doesn’t seem like a worthy goal to motivate his actions... “kin you get my lucky rabbit foot back from them thieves?” In fact, I suspect Spielberg recognizes this because he also gave Jones a secondary motivation of freeing all the kidnapped children to motivate him. So while this is technically a MacGuffin, it’s not a good one.

So what are some of your favorite MacGuffins? And do you think the Death Star plans are a MacGuffin?
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Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 3

Spielberg is a talented storyteller. . . usually. That said, the man can do a whole lotta wrong.

Question: "What was the cheesiest moment in the series?"

Scott's Answer: I know I'm preaching to the choir but Shia swinging on the vines in Crystal Skull... but it isn't even that, it's the presence of his new CGI monkey friends. I'm not a Shia hater but it just reeks of "The kids will love this!" and "We have CGI now!" Thanks to the Star Wars prequels, some people have a tendency to blame everything bad in this movie on Lucas but I'll go ahead and blame Spielberg, too. [smile] Also, Marion coaching him on his fencing skills as he duels with Cate Blanchett whilst standing on top of a moving car, all thanks to some awful bluescreen work. ILM must've taken the day off!

Andrew's Answer: I should say the moment Indiana Jones meets Hitler. It's no surprise they got to Berlin on a motorcycle because this was a shark jumping moment and you need a motorcycle if you're gonna jump a shark. Seriously! Why do this? You have a perfectly decent serious film going and suddenly you inject this level of "look at me, I have no one supervising me" directorial moment? Steven, just because you can do a thing does not mean you should do a thing. BUT that's not my pick. I will go with something else from Crusade, which is the stupid moment when the library clerk looks at his stamp because Jones somehow coincides the noise from his smashing through the floor with the moment this guy stamps books. This is cartoon moment deserves to be removed from the culture.
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Tuesday, January 15, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 2

According to eBay, the Ark of the Covenant is worth the most, but it’s got a heck of a shipping charge and you’ll never get it through customs. Maybe it wasn’t worth pursuing after all. And what about that sippy cup you can’t take with you?

Question: "Rank the artifacts Indi pursues by coolness."

Andrew's Answer: I put the Ark at the top of my list because it’s just all kinds of cool. Not only does it have a cool history, but it would be highly useful if the bad guys got their hands on it. Believe it or not, I’m going with the Crystal Skulls next. They symbolize the modern Holy Grail, if I may say so, because they tie in the whole alien subculture. Then I rank the Holy Grail. Yes, I know the Holy Grail is considered THE thing everyone quests after, but if it’s just a cheap wooden cup that you can’t even take with you, then it’s not that exciting. Finally, we come to the rock collection. Yeah... painted rocks. To quote Wayne’s World. . . “we’re not worthy!”

Scott's Answer: The Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail both tie for first, if only because we're all somewhat familiar with them and the mythology behind them is a little more... relevant to some people, at least in this country. Next would be the Sankara stones. Not as relevant or meaningful for some folks, but still interesting. And like I said in my defense of the film, if Indy is interested in them, then we're interested in them as well (at least until the movie ends!). The same can not be said for the Crystal Skulls. I don't even have a problem with the idea of Crystal Skulls - I think my problem is simply, of all the cool artifacts Lucas could've chosen, he went with this? But like everything else, had the film been better written I'd have no problem.
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Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Questionable Jones No. 1

Indiana Jones films are truly a wretched hive of scum and villainy... or they wouldn't be any fun.

Question: "Who was your favorite villain?"

Scott's Answer: Believe it or not, I don't really have a favorite villain. Belloq is the best-acted and best-written villain but I think Mola Ram is the most impressive from a visual (or "cinematic") perspective. I'll pick the safe answer and go with Belloq. He was also the only villain with whom Indy was already somewhat acquainted.

Andrew's Answer: I'm going to go with Major Toht (Ronald Lacey). He's the black-leather coated Nazi who has them digging in the wrong place. :) Remember this? "Shoot zem. . . shoot zem bos." I love his ruthlessness. And even more, I love that he's no fool. He is a worthy challenge for Indi, which makes Indi's victory all the more impressive.
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