Plato, Alcibiades 1, section 128d

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[128d] and the rest over what belongs to the body?

Alcibiades
Absolutely so.

Socrates
Then for taking pains over a thing itself and over what belongs to it we use different arts.

Alcibiades
Apparently.

Socrates
So when you take pains over your belongings you are not taking pains over yourself.

Alcibiades
Not at all.

Socrates
For the arts, it seems, that one used for taking pains over oneself and over one's belongings would not be the same.

Alcibiades
Apparently not.

Socrates
Come then, whatever kind of art can we use for taking pains over ourselves?

Alcibiades
I cannot say.

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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