Plato, Alcibiades 1, section 109c

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[109c]

Alcibiades
That is a hard question: for even if someone decides that he must go to war with those who are doing what is just, he would not admit that they were doing so.

Socrates
For that would not be lawful, I suppose?

Alcibiades
No, indeed; nor is it considered honorable either.

Socrates
So you too will appeal to these things in making your speeches?

Alcibiades
Necessarily.

Socrates
Then must not that “better” about which I was asking in reference to making or not making war, on those on whom we ought to or not, and when we ought to or not, be simply and solely the juster?

Alcibiades
Apparently it is.

Plato. Plato in Twelve Volumes, Vol. 8 translated by W.R.M. Lamb. Cambridge, MA, Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. 1955.

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