I felt that I had duty to post this as a warning to all other Christians and I am not judging any people here. This is merely my experience.
I'm a Christian and I was baptized for two years. My family and I currently attend Gospel Hall every Sunday. I was not to claim myself as a very spiritual person but I can say that I do love God very much. I read Bible based on my mood whenever I feel there's a need. But apart from that, I still keep my connection with God as I pray for every event I considered important in my life and I try my best not to miss church. Sometimes I still have bad-tempered but I can see myself no more lying, in fact after believing in Christ, I didn't lie anymore.
A year ago, I got an offer from Pahang Matriculation College and I simply accepted it. When I reached this place called Gambang, it seemed like a very deserted place, I was afraid that there was no church there and I might not be able to join Sunday worship for one whole year.
I was a second intake and after registration, my parents and I came across a student who went with this very first question, 'Are you Christian?' Well, honestly, we were shocked. Then, she told us that there were this husband and wife who both were teaching here and they are Christians, they are fetching students to church every Sunday. Immediately, she gave me the teachers' contact number. We were very happy indeed and prayed to thank God. In fact, I could feel that God is always be there for us. Well, my parents' worries were gone and I happily texted
one of the teacher, Mrs B (Let's call them Mr.A and Mrs.B as I couldn't judge them publicly) , telling her that I am a Christian and I would like to follow them to church on Sunday.
This Sunday was my first time to church there. I met a girl who approached me and claimed herself sent by Mrs B. We were waiting at the guard house as usual and I realized quite a number of students following in 3 cars, one drove by Mr.A, one by Mrs.B and another one by a brother from their church. My first time was with the girl and another guy who sat in front. They were both students in my college. Mr.A talked to me and asked about myself a little bit and when I asked what is the church we are going. He didn't answer me. So, the girl who sat with me whispered to me that we are not exactly going to a church, it is just a brother's house and the worship conducted is not the same as the church we usually went. I see.
But then I asked again what is the church we are going and I myself also couldn't understand why I kept asking so. It was my habit when I talked to new people, I liked to ask a lot so as to ease the air. I even asked Mr.A if there are other churches here. But Mr.A didn't answer and seemed not happy with that. But I was not aware, all I know is that I was distracted by the view outside, I never been to this place before. Then Mr.A told me it's Kuantan Church and there's no other church here. (I repeat, he told me there's no other church here) Kuantan Church, no name? Yes, no name. He told me.
When I got there, the worship was totally different. Someone was holding the guitar and we sang hymns. I enjoyed this part very much. But then everyone was given a piece of paper, writing something about God, everyone took turn to read and as one was reading, others should say Amen after one sentence. I felt extremely weird and at the same time funny, I followed the style but I also felt I wanted to laugh. So, the whole process I was holding my laugh and saying Amen. The rest Sundays, I would follow Mr.A and Mrs.B to their church. Sometimes they would bring us to shop for some groceries and we also got free lunch after service. Frankly, these were the reason non-Christians were so attracted to come to the church too and sadly also to some of the Christians. As time passed, we were no longer having worship in the brother's house but in a church that was just finished some renovation. Horrible things happen, sometimes Mrs.B would give us some pamphlet and asked us to read it. And during the service, we had to stand up one by one to share what we think! Not forget to mention, there was no pastor there. Because they think pastor is the last person they need and it is totally unnecessary. So, Mr.A is mainly the one who preach to us every Sunday. Well, honestly, at that time, I felt there's nothing wrong with the church and I understand each church has their own concept. They are just something different and I even described it to my Mom as unique especially the non-stopped Amen we had to said.
I even felt very accepted with the non-stop Amen they had to said after every sentence. Because sometimes I would feel groggy and half-conscious and often I would repeat Amen and secretly took some rest with my eyes.
Then, two of my friends went and seek for Methodist Church on their own and they found one in Kuantan. I had a friend from my hometown who studied in UMP there and she informed me that she went to Methodist church. But I also remembered Mr.A told me there is no other church in Kuantan. So, my friends went first to Methodist Church and then I followed them. The problem is Methodist Church couldn't provide transport. But we were willing to take bus rather than sitting Mr.A's car. Sometimes Mr.A would still message me to go to their church, but thinking back how boring it could be there and all my friends were not going, my choice would still be Methodist Church. And in addition, the first time I went to Methodist Church, I cried after I sang the praise songs and it was a very comfortable cry as I would feel very energetic each time I was back to college. And then, almost every time no matter I was in the Chinese or English Methodist Church, my spirit would be touched during singing praise songs and must not miss the cry. But at Mr.A's church, all I had was sleepy mind and sometimes I forced myself very hard to hear what he said as I felt I must not come to House of Lord with such attitude.
For second semester, I went to Methodist Church every Sunday with friends. My Mom told me to go Mr.A's church once in a while and I couldn't as it was boring. Mr.A and Mrs.B were being cold and ignorant to some of my Christian friends who were not going to church. Honestly, their very first first impression to me were not very friendly, just I merely think myself and accepted the fact that Christians are not perfect, each of us will have our own weakness and of course it's normal that some will mind the act that we reject their church. To add some more, they are not as kind as the Christians I used to meet back then, I was just baptized two years and the moments I joined church, I can see Christians are amazingly kind and friendly which part of the reason to make me believe that God's love creates these people. However, whenever I seek help from Mr.A and Mrs.B, they will told me that they are not at college and ask me to figure it out myself and after that only they text me and ask if I'm okay. I'm not blaming them for not being helpful but sometimes the way they refused to help me were quite rude and I couldn't lie but to tell, at the end God sent some non-Christians to help me every time I was in trouble.
This makes me think of James 2:16
If one of you says to him, "Go, I wish you well; keep warm and well fed," but does nothing about his physical needs, what good is it?
At the same time, Mr.A and Mrs.B always invited me over to their house, the teachers' hostel for dinner. And then, they grabbed this chance to ask me to join a training. They said the training is very good and it's for university graduate and college graduate like me. The way they persuade makes me to think I should join some training to make myself be close to God. The name training makes me to think it's something about upgrading my disciplinary through God. Plus, it's in K.L, I was just planning, if there's a chance, I could meet some friends and shopping there. I just told them I might have interest.
But I never thought at the night when math paper ended, they would come to the front of my hostel, asked me to meet them, again persuaded me to join the training, said that they would subsidize me
and handed me some books required for the training as if I had agreed to join at the very first.
Matriculation ended.
I felt very lazy to join the training. But I couldn't refuse as if I did so, I would have to find a way to mail back the books Mr.A lend. If I joined the training, I could simply give back the books to people over there who would pass it to Mr.A. Same time, I was also wondering, why wouldn't he just give me the very small hymns as gift as I have asked him to buy one for me before? Why is he so stingy? Now, I know the reason. (It's because their hymns are not the same as ours, you can't buy it outside)
Straight to the point.
I happily came to K.L. Went by L.R.T and just fetched by one of the sister to their place. I checked in and got to sign a paper which claimed that I would join the training till very end of the date we agreed and couldn't leave by no reason and must not object anything the trainer said and trainees were here to be trained. I found these reasonable for it's a training and I thought normally every training would list out such rules. One thing I felt sad about is that I couldn't go out but to stay at the house for the whole two weeks and totally lived a life inside. The fees was around RM400 plus to buy their books!! Mr.A only subsidized me RM120. This is crazy. But at the end I thought since these books are about God, there's no point I grumbled about buying them.
At first, I met C. She was like me, not from a Christian family but converted. But one thing I was not like her, she is very arrogant and acted as if she knows everything. She asked if I know
witness lee and I told her I don't know this man. And she said how good this man is until she nearly forgot to mention about God. Whatever, the whole time she talked, I could feel that she's glorying the w.l weirdo man but not God. Every time, before I introduced myself to new people, she would help to introducing by saying that I just saved. I was baptized for two years but she said I was just saved all because I just knew them. And the two years after I was baptized were uncounted? (There's certainly problem now) This girl likes to sleep whenever the trainers are talking and she often look at her watch to see if it is meal time already and she often sneak to the back to find if there's anything to eat. OMG!! But she still acted if she is a very spiritual person as she had attended many trainings before.
Machinery Training: How they brainwash you.
At the very first
day, I already cannot accept what they said. They said we are not saved yet even tough we are baptized. We must exercise our spirits. If not we will go to hell, the happy part of hell. What the heck? Didn't you read John 3:16
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life? They claimed the eternal life is in hell, not with God, if we didn't exercise our spirits. I was just thinking, who are you to twist God's words, since when God says such thing? Then, they pointed out some examples Lord Jesus Christ said in the four gospels like the Ten Virgin story. Well, I was not aware that they twisted God's meaning and reluctantly accepted it and at the same time, I'm still doubted and worried.
Let me tell you here first what they want before I pointed out their brainwashing tactics.
They want us to believe that all the other churches are wrong. Only their church is right. And most horribly, Christians from other churches will go to hell, only them will go to heaven. Most importantly, by doing what they are doing (read their books and pray using words in their books every morning, read Bible of their version and pray and read their explanation of the Bible and pray using this explanation, call upon Lord's name, spread the gospel and maybe letting go your job just to join their two years training and serve the Lord as they claim), only that you can be transformed by God into God's image and finally you yourself become God.
Now, I feel the whole thing is ridiculously trash. But when I was forced by them to do these things day in and out during the training, I was totally brainwashed and I was not aware that these are wrong at all. Same to them!!!
They want us to reject other churches too and only them are the Body of Christ/Iglesia/召会. The very first reason why other churches wrong is because they got a name for their church. See, ridiculous and I only find out after I woke up from this. They used a very stupid example which stupid people like me and other stupid university graduates would believe. For example, Roger stands here right beside you, you point at Roger head and say, this is Roger's head and then you point at the body, says whose body is this? Of course this is Roger's head, so it's Roger's body. So, if Christ is the head, then church is Christ body, not Gospel Hall's body, not Baptist's body, not Methodist's body. So, other churches were wrong, only their church, the Body of Christ is right. This is the most stupid examples I had ever heard, but when you are being brainwashed, you wouldn't know. Now, I really want to scold, idiots!!! You are using the matter of name to show that you are the right church, I tell you what, the truth isn't necessary to use this kinds of maneuver to prove and most importantly, Satan are those who like strategies very much.
To show that they are special, they don't accept pastors. Come on, Pastors are the one who serve the Lord, who are you to preach? Even me can preach there. Wey, even children like us can preach. And it's compulsory that everyone stand up and preach so that everyone are in one Body of Christ. Wow, sounds so amazing and nice, then answer me, can the girl named C I describe just now preach? Can we who haven't reach certain spiritual level preach? If everyone can just stand up and preach, how confused will be this church? I know, you will use reason that in case we exercise our spirits, we all can preach. Well, if I exercise my spirit, can I even publish a Bible of my version? Paul can write something, I can write something too, we are in one, right?
They don't celebrate Christmas. As they claim there is proof that Lord Jesus Christ was not born in winter. Come on, everybody know that, ok?! In case my father lose his birth cert and he doesn't know his birthday, how come I can't pick a day and celebrate with him? We celebrated Christmas just to remember Christ, not to exactly having a birthday party. And they declared that Christmas is a day which Romans worship idol. I knew the do all these accusation just to show that they are the right one and we are wrong. Even if Romans worship idol on that day, I don't care what so ever, as long as we Christians know Christmas is for Christ, is there any problem? What makes you think that they don't celebrate Christmas? Well, this is what come to my mind? There is one thing in this world who really pissed off when Christ was born. Think yourself.
Tactic 1: Send someone who feel have the same situation like you.Now, when I am awake, I realized a senior who is also from KMPh came to join this training just to do some influence. First day, she already very kind to me, she just graduated from UM, medical doctor and she asked me where I'm planning to go and so so. Then slowly, when she made testimony publicly, she said she went to normal church like us during Uni and found many many funny things, the events the church held like concert, acting were very funny to her. And she found that this church is what she wants, a church which only sings hymns and serve the Lord. (Did you just notice, can you judge all the other churches just because the church you attend is having concert?) Then, she said she's from a Christian family and she accidentally found a book in her father rack called Song of Songs. (The Song of Songs is their favourite subject, King Solomon described God and his bride described us which will soon to be conformed into God's image. You do found this verses in Romans, but one thing to remember, that doesn't mean only people from their church will be conformed to God image, not necessary by their ways) Then she said she found this Song of Songs is very romantic and by coming to this church only she realized the beautiful romance between God and human. (Did you notice? Song of Songs can merely be found in every Bible. But she only find a book about it in her father's rack. Only their church love to publish book on their own. Which mean at very first, she is from this church!!!) She acted as if she is fallen into a very deep valley and only see light after coming to this church which wants to make you just to feel the same.
Tactic 2: Call upon Lord's name and live in spiritIt's tired for me to tell things about them especially their things were wrong and weird to mention. They said there are three life in us, God life, man life and satan life. If we have any reject of the things they said, we are actually living in ourselves, which is satan life. Then the trainer says there's no point for us to have meeting as this would be satan meeting. (See, even if Holy Spirit might be telling you they are fake and want you to reject, as what they claim, you will think you are just living a satan life and quickly pray) And one more thing, before any lesson and after every lesson, they will ask trainees to call upon Lord's name and must call loudly and many many times. (Just a tactic to make you tired and exhausted where you found no connection with God after calling in their place. And thus when you are tired, you simply accept what they said)
Tactic 3: memorising and experience notebookOne thing you need to do is to memorize the words on the book they published, the lyrics of the hymns they made. This is what I hate. If we love God and really enjoy one verse, we will remember it. But they memorize with purpose to debate with people about God where they will memorize which part the verse came from too. And we, trainees memorize with purpose to force ourselves indirectly accept everything they said because you must accept something before you memorize something. And you are required to jot down your experience during the training inside a notebook (at least 3 & must pass up before 10pm) which even you don't enjoy the training, you must pretend that you love the training very much and got some enjoyable and memorable experiences to jot down. Some may force themselves to enjoy just to create some fake sense of joy to be jot down in the notebook later.
Tactic 4: share experienceStand up and tell how you enjoy Lord. But most of the trainees would share how they enjoy the training and how they seek truth here so that you are also forced to do the same thing even if they are not the truth.
Tactic 5: visit other Christians which is also from their churchThey called themselves saints which makes me want to throw up. Paying a visit just like going to hear the introduction of how spiritually filled and religious these people are so that you hope to be like them one day.
Tactic 6: Spread GospelThey love to purposely choose a specific site like a condominium or somewhere and purposely go and knock door one by one just to spread gospel. Worst, I must memory things on their booklet just to spread gospel? Remember there's a story where Lord Jesus Christ talked to a Samaritan woman and asked her to give Him some water? Lord Jesus Christ didn't purposely went and sat there just to wait for some woman and let her to know Him. In fact, it's just mere coincidence. So, spreading gospel shouldn't be purposely go to some place and then pray to God that we can find some accepting. We just tell these good news to people we encounter in life and we are not promoting sales everywhere like insurances and still wouldn't want to give up when people close their doors. Don't you like to say that we are predestined and even force us to memorize Romans chapter 8 verse 29? Well, then, why should you need to be like promoting products when spreading the gospel?
TACTIC 7: 2 YEARS TRAINING
I tried not to use rude words. They got this 2-years training for university graduates. You attend the whole 2 years just to be trained or precisely to be brainwashed without doing anything else. After the training which I think, would be very hard to save you from them. This brainwash is even heavier. Some give up their job and merely do work in the church. And during the training, they invite these China people over K.L to even brainwash us, claiming that they had joined 2 years training in Hong Kong and they are very religious people. Should I even give a damn? God wants us to work six days and sweat. Did you ever sweat? Who didn't want to be like you, fly here and there, live in nice place, free food and then just talk about verses you memorize from the Bible and things from the book to people and worst, leave your family behind?? If you try to say that you work for God, please take a look a John 6:29,
Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent. Well, precisely you got a job, which to brainwash those educated people to work for you and leave their parents who raise them. (Caution: a China woman even rudely answered me only university graduates can join the training as those who are not educated are not qualified to do God's work. What the heck? Remember that Jesus' disciples are fishermen, not any educated university graduates)
Tactic 8: smile
Smiling is their weapon together with full mouth of Bible verse. But they are just machine, if you asked them something else, they cannot talk anymore. They are like Pharisees, telling Lord Jesus to wash hand before eating. They are still coming for visit even tough we didn't welcome them. One sister said with agony tone, if you all didn't believe, God has no way!!! My Mom told her, how come God has no way, Jesus said I'm the light, the truth and the way!! Then they said, God needs us. My Mom told her, you are wrong, it's we need God. We can't do anything without God but God is still God without us. Then, they never mention Holy Spirit but always say the Spirit. Worst thing is when we asked what is THE spirit, they don't dare to say it's the Holy Spirit also.
Reason I leftI was totally brainwashed by them. I came home and persuaded my parents to go their church. All I said is, Methodist were wrong, Methodist were wrong, they are right. My mother remembered how I enjoyed going to Methodist church when I was in Kuantan. But I was 360 degrees change after the training.
I skipped some stories and straight to the night I was back from USM interview in Kelantan and stayed at their place in Penang and planned to go to Cameron Highland with them next morning.
I just finished arguing with my Mom over phone as she couldn't accept that church. At last, my Mom cried and asked me to pray myself to ask God if this is the right way. These final words over phone started to make me rethink if what I was following now is true and all I could do is praying.
When I was taking a shower, suddenly a voice very urgent calling inside my heart. Leave now! Pack your clothes and leave! Don't go to K.L, don't go to Cameron Highlands, pack your clothes and leave now!! Don't ever try to get on the bed, don't!! Leave, leave!! This is an evil group!!! (Then, everything they had done and days I been with them flashed in my mind like slide show which warned me that they are wrong) I was very scared to have this voice calling, urgently, non-stoppedly. And when I looked at everyone faces, I felt like I see ghosts. I wanted to phone my Mom secretly but I was too scared. I tried to calm myself and went to sit outside. One of them greeted me and I immediately asked are you studying here. She said she's graduated. 'What are you doing now?' 'Working for church.' 'How many years you had graduated?' 'Four.' 'Are your family Christians?' 'No.'
(What do you expect her family to think of Christians? They stole my child away during University and my child is not getting a job and working for them, the child I raise so big leave us just like that......)
I felt very tired, sleepy. Even if the voice is calling urgently, I planned to sleep first and at night tell them I want to go home. Guess what happen? I climbed the double-decker bed and *pom*, I was dragged by force and blood split from my head. My head was hit by a fan with two wounds and 17 stitches.
Fear not. God prepared a table before me in the presence of my enemies.
They can't take my life.
And guess what they tell of the voice inside me, they said it's satan.
Well, to profane the Holy Spirit is another sin.
I'm not judging anybody here but this is my testimony, a very beautiful one.
