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July music

story · music · places

The story is today about the first published composition by Arnold Schönberg which I was blessed to hear. Listen, and perhaps read what Alma Mahler (to-be-Mahler at the time, to be precise, who was present at the first performance) said, and yes that was too much for the Main page ;) -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a Bach cantata premiered 300 years ago OTD. - A meeting of two women - the occasion of the cantata - is pictured in our local church. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

3 July is the birthday of Leoš Janáček, and I'm happy I had a meaningful DYK in 2021. It's also the birthday of Franz Kafka, and I uploaded pics from his family's album seen in Berlin. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:44, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Libuše Domanínská, the subject of yesterday's story, would have turned 100 today, but I missed that ;) - Overnight, Tamara Milashkina became GA and Lando Bartolini went to the Main page. I made my story about his almost unbelievable career, from Luigi in Il tabarro in Philadelphia in 1968 (with a nod to Liberty) up to Calaf in Turandot in Beijing in 1999 ;) - 4 July is also the birthday of Brian Boulton who was a pioneer of a concise infobox in 2013. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:21, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Pictured on the Main page: Brian's Mozart family grand tour, my story today, and Mozart related to all three items of music on my talk: our 2023 concert, an opera in a theatre where a Mozart premiere took place, and those remembered, Martti Wallén, a bass, and Liana Isakadze, a violinist from Georgia (whose article would be better with more details about her music-making). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:38, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

My story today is - because of the anniversary of the premiere OTD in 1782 - about Die Entführung aus dem Serail, opera by Mozart, while yesterday's was - because of the TFA - about Les contes d'Hoffmann, opera by Offenbach, - so 3 times Mozart again if you click on "music" ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:16, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Today's story is about a photographer who took iconic pictures, especially View from Williamsburg, Brooklyn, on Manhattan, 9/11, yesterday's was a great mezzo, and on Thursday we watched a sublime ballerina. If that's not enough my talk offers chamber music from two amazing concerts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

July 2024

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Move review/Log/2024 July regarding a requested move in which you have expressed interest. The thread is ABC News (United States). Thank you. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 00:55, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Commented, and thanks for the notification. SilkTork (talk) 09:27, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

Remove/lower protection of Adidas

I do not feel ECP on the page is necessary due to the relative infrequency of edits. I don't know how low it should be, but I propose no protection with pending changes. You can make it semi or no protection at all if you want but ECP is no longer necessary. If vandalism returns it could go higher. CharlieEdited (talk) 20:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little hesitant to reduce protection on a highly visible article (over 110,000 pageviews a month) which has been subjected to high levels of vandalism (1,690 reverted edits), and even with current protection gets vandalised: [1]. The article has continued to grow since protection ([2]), so the protection in itself has not stopped editing - despite a comment on the talkpage saying that is the case. What has happened is the number of edits has declined - the bulk of which were reverted: [3], but the quality of the edits has proportionally increased. The Extended-confirmed-protected edit requests on the talkpage are working as intended - with speedy responses. Because, before the semi-protection, there were over 200 IP edits a year, it would inappropriate to apply PC, as that is too many edits to monitor (PC is intended for "infrequently edited articles"). However, let us try semi-protection without ECP to see how it goes. ECP has now been removed. SilkTork (talk) 09:33, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Bed-in

Hello. Wondering why you moved Bed-ins for peace to Bed-in. The "ins" indicates more than one, and 'for peace' summarizes the reasoning behind the performance artwork, so the full name seemed adequate and descriptive. Shouldn't this have been an RM (unless it was and I missed it)? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:32, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I came upon the article and noted that the name apparently didn't meet WP:CRITERIA, so I did some research on the use of the name, and after looking into it, I changed it to fit the criteria. Recognizability - the most common use is "bed-in". Naturalness - the most natural use is "bed-in". Precision - "bed-in" is precise and exact. Concision - there is no need for superfluous words such "for peace", as "bed-in" is all that is needed. Consistency - it matches Sit-in, Human Be-In, etc. It is singular as that is what we prefer per WP:SINGULAR. I followed common usage in reliable sources such as [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], etc. "Bed-In For Peace" is also used, and may be regarded as the "official" title for the two main events, though even when the official name is used, journalists prefer to then use the simpler form of "bed-in". We prefer WP:Common names over WP:OFFICIALNAMES, so go by most common usage. I did a Google search for "bed-ins for peace" (10,300 results), "bed-in for peace" ( 122,000 results), and "bed-in" (90,300,000 results), and found that pretty significant. I also noted that while bed-in was a well established redirect, and the incoming links (mostly from templates) used "bed-ins for peace", there were still an average of 15 daily visits to the page ([9]), which would mainly be coming from those typing in "bed-in". As per Wikipedia:Moving a page, I didn't think that moving the name would be controversial given the reasons given above, so made the move. SilkTork (talk) 13:55, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the full answer. Since this was a performance artwork as well as an anti-war protest the only question seems to be 'what did John and Yoko call it'. 'Bed-in' seems to be the overall descriptor of the type of event (Sit-in, not Nashville sit-in, Be-in, etc.) but was it the name of the event? If not then Bed-in would be fine as a redirect but not as the article's title, which should be the name that Lennon and Oko used at the time (was it "Bed-In for Peace"?). Randy Kryn (talk) 14:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Yoko calls it a "bed-in": [10]. And I do recall at the time that Lennon called it a "bed-in" as he introduced it - something like "It's a bed-in folks". I recall seeing that on the news. Hang on - I'll see if I can find that. Yes: [11]. SilkTork (talk) 19:08, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

And I just found this: [12]. SilkTork (talk) 21:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, good find. Which leads to this, which could be used on the page if it isn't already. Notice Ono uses an uppercase 'I', here and in other sources (Bed-In). Randy Kryn (talk) 23:18, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I had noticed that; and some other sources also use that capitalisation. However, the bulk of the sources use "bed-in"; so, as we prefer WP:Common names over WP:OFFICIALNAMES, we tend to go with the most common usage. SilkTork (talk) 04:13, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. Will keep it on my watchlist to see if any other editor (or Yoko) weighs in at the page. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)