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[495a] with whatever kind of enjoyment, are happy, and draws no distinction between the good and bad sorts of pleasure? But come, try again now and tell me whether you say that pleasant and good are the same thing, or that there is some pleasure which is not good.

Callicles
Then, so that my statement may not be inconsistent through my saying they are different, I say they are the same.

Socrates
You are spoiling your first statements,1 Callicles, and you can no longer be a fit partner with me in probing the truth, if you are going to speak against your own convictions.


1 Cf. Plat. Gorg. 482d, where Callicles blamed Polus for not saying what he really thought.

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    • Gonzalez Lodge, Commentary on Plato: Gorgias, 499b
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