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[409d]

Socrates
Πῦρ is too much for me. It must be that either the muse of Euthyphro has deserted me or this is a very difficult word. Now just note the contrivance I introduce in all cases like this which are too much for me.

Hermogenes
What contrivance?

Socrates
I will tell you. Answer me; can you tell the reason of the word πῦρ?

Hermogenes
Not I, by Zeus.

Socrates
See what I suspect about it. I know that many Greeks,


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