NIST Deals with a Nutter

This is hilarious. Lt. Col. (Ret.) Guy S. Razer, writes to NIST with his expert testimony on the events of 9-11. However, as usual with the crackpots (scroll down a bit to WTC 7 Evidence), he does not write about anything that his supposed Air Force experience "qualifies" him to discuss with some expertise, like, oh, intercepting hijacked planes or something similar. No, he wants to talk about WTC 7.

Hilariously, he leads off with the thermal imaging, showing that as of 9/16/01, there were hot spots at ground zero with temperatures up to 1020 degrees Kelvin. Then he starts talking about the "molten steel" claims. Hell-ooooooo! 1020 degrees Kelvin is 1377 degrees fahrenheit, which is not even close to being the required temperature to melt steel.

Better than that is the overall tone of the piece, which might safely be described as paranoid fruitcake. Consider this segment:

Mr Newman,

I know how busy you must be as you did not have the time or the courtesy to return my phone calls, which your Public Affairs representative vehemently promised you would do by close of business yesterday...you are quickly turning into an enemy of the Truth, which quickly makes you an enemy of my friends and of me...And if you think we are going away, you are not only mistaken, but severely so!!! That is a promise and a threat!

And after that, he can't understand why nobody at NIST wants to talk to him, so he goes to one of their facilities:

NIST WTC7 Investigation Team, I really appreciated actually being able to speak with Mr Newman yesterday. Just think, it only took me all of July, an impressive amount un-returned phone calls and emails and a personal visit to your facility just to get to talk on the phone to a NIST WTC investigator, and then it was only so he could stall me until the site police chief and Lt could get there to ensure my repaid (sic) departure

I think we have a new favorite in the "Truther most likely to go postal" category.

You Don't Know How Relieved I Am

Since I have posted a couple of times on these silly "no false flag pledge cards", I was greatly amused to see this post over on 911 Blogger announcing that Guy Razer had signed one.















Oh yes, I am sure the New World Order was so dependent on the services of a supposed retired Lieutenant Colonel who lives in a tent watching HBO.

As George Monbiot said, "The great virtue of a fake conspiracy is that it calls on you to do nothing." The troofers have become the master of the meaningless gesture. Doing nothing and then praising themselves for their intelligence and bravery.

Alfons and Guy Redux

As if they could not get any more self-absorbed these two nutters continue posting their phone conversations. In this episode Guy is all excited because he e-mailed NIST (which I discussed previously) what he calls "evidence", but which everyone else would just refer to as a bunch of 9/11 conspiracy talking points, and NIST sent him back an e-mail acknowledging that they had received it. Both of these guys think this is so monumental that they think NIST should issue a press release on the issue, and they manage to spend the next 45 minutes or so discussing it, although neither one of them seems to have much respect for NIST with Razer referring to them as both "faggots" and "f**kers". Geez, you could use this stuff to torture prisoners at Gitmo, it is so stupid.

Update: Also, is it just me, or is this guy (no pun intended) drunk?

More On the Alfons and Guy Show

Alfons posts another bizarre conversation between him and Mr. Razer. Mostly they just complain about the criticism they have received, from their fellow 9/11 truthers ironically. Guy also says that he has volunteered to speak in front of the House Science and Technology Committee which overseas NIST. Yeah, I am sure they are anxious to hear his expert testimony. The guy can't afford a tent but he is going to buy a suit and fly to Washington D.C. to testify. They posted some of his correspondence with NIST over at the V911T website. I somehow doubt any scientist is going to take this seriously:

My question to you Mr Newman is...How are you going to explain away facts so obvious that to cover them up is in itself an act pure cowardice and deserves severe punishment? As I said in my first communication, you are in a very precarious position indeed!!!

A BRIEF STUDY ON TEMPERATURE, STEEL, MELTING, KEROSENE (aka Jet Fuel)
AND
LARRY SILVERSTIEN'S [sic] BUILDINGS (aka WTC 1,2,7)
THAT HAVE A TENDANCY [sic] TOWARD
RATHER EXPLOSIVE COLLAPSE!!

and:

I TRULY DON'T BELIEVE THESE HEATERS ARE RUNNING A TEMPERATURE EVEN APPROACHING 1000 DEGREES KELVIN (1300+ DEGREES FARENHEIT [sic]) DO YOU???

I THINK THE RATHER THIN WIRE MESH
AND INEXPERNSIVE [sic] METAL
ON THESE HEATERS WOULD PROBABLY MELT
BEFORE THE WTC BUILDINGS' ASTM E119 UL CERTIFIED STEEL WOULD!!!
(The time temperature curves for the ASTM E119 standard require the samples to be exposed to temperatures around 2000 degrees farenheit [sic] for several hours) FULL ARTICLE BELOW...

This seems to be the e-mail, that brought up the threats he was talking about:

Mr Newman,

I know how busy you must be as you did not have the time or the courtesy to return my phone calls, which your Public Affairs representative vehemently promised you would do by close of business yesterday...you are quickly turning into an enemy of the Truth, which quickly makes you an enemy of my friends and of me...And if you think we are going away, you are not only mistaken, but severely so!!! That is a promise and a threat!

The Alfons and Guy Razer Show

Aflons, the founder of "Veterans" for 9/11 "Truth" posts a telephone conversation that he had with "LTC" Guy Razer. Apparently Mr. Razer called up investigators at NIST and threatened them with prosecution for accessory to murder after the fact, and ended up talking to NIST security, whatever that is.

They spend most of their time congratulating each other for how brave they are, but it ends up sounding more like a Cheech and Chong skit. It is quite hilarious in a bizarre sort of way if you have some time to kill.

LTC Guy Razer, USMC

The alleged LTC Guy Razer, who bizarrely has been transferred to the Marine Corps, is interviewed in this clip from the Pilots for 9/11 Truth. Not too much new here. He apparently is a huge Dylan Avery fan and repeatedly praises him. When asked for proof that he is a fighter pilot he claims the military lost his records (big surprise), and oh yeah, he says he is still living in a tent!

Update: A reader points us towards the FAA database, which I was able to download here, which shows the following for Mr. Razer:


UNIQUE NO A1558748
FIRST NAME GUY STEWART
LAST NAME RAZER
STREET 1 GENERAL DELIVERY
CITY LAS VEGAS
STATE NV
ZIP CODE 89125-9999
REGION WP
MED CLASS 1
MED DATE 62005
MED EXP DATE 122005

Hmm, so we have a homeless pilot with bad eyesight and an out-of-date physical.

LTC Guy Razer, Veteran for 9/11 Truth?

As a veteran myself, one of the things that really peeves me is people who pretend to be one in order to further their own political agendas, witness Jesse MacBeth and Lauro Chavez. At the same time though, due to the seriousness of the charge, I am reluctant to accuse anyone of not being a veteran, unless I am relatively sure I have my facts in order. All I will say in this case is, it is really suspicious.

One of the recent darlings of the 9/11 truth movement has been retired Lieutenant Colonel Guy Razer, who claims to be a former Air Force fighter pilot. As has been pointed out in a thread on the JREF forum, his all too convenient name aside, he has absolutely nothing to back up his claim, and in interviews has given no impression that he has any knowledge specific to someone with a long distinguished career as a fighter pilot. There is no Internet-available information on him, other than his Myspace page, with the nomenclature Supereagle69, which appears more to have been created by a teenager with Top Gun fantasies than a 20 year veteran of the Air Force.

As I have mentioned before, I am on the mailing list for the ironically named Veterans for 9/11 Truth, whose active members are mostly non-veterans with serious issues with the truth. Mr. Razer is also a member, and posts regularly to the list although his Yahoo e-mail account actually reads "Bill Jenkins". None of the other members have ever bothered to question his credentials, or why his e-mail does not match his name, but then again this is the organization which still proudly lists Lauro Chavez as a member.

In any case, I received this rather bizarre e-mail from him on the mailing list:

I AM HAVING SIGNIFICANT DIFFICULTIES KEEPING IN THE TRUTH MOVEMENT!!!!!


VETERANS AND TRUTHERS,

I AM IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION. I HAVE BEEN MADE TO LEAVE 3 MIITARY FACILITIES SINCE MAY 10TH. THE LAST ONE, VANDENBERG AFB, I WAS FORCED TO LEAVE THE NIGHT BEFORE I WAS TO TAKE PICTURES OF A FORCED LABOR CAMP ON THAT BASE. ITS EXISITENCE [sic] WAS CONFIRMED BY AN ACTIVE DUTY OFFICER THERE. MY COMPUTER, CAMERA AND PHONE CHARGER WERE ALL STOLEN, BEFORE I COULD GET BACK TO PROTECT
THEM.
I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR TRUTH FOR A LONG TIME NOW, LIVING IN A TENT, AND NOW I DON'T EVEN HAVE THE FUNDS FOR THAT! UNTIL JULY 1ST I DO NOT EVEN HAVE THE COMM CAPABILITY TO KEEP UP MY WEBSITE: www.myspace.com/supereagle69

THIS COUNTRY IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES AND OUR WORD IS HAVING A DIFFICULT TIME KEEPING UP WITH THE ABILITIES OF THE ELITES TO SQUELCH IT!
I CAN NOT GET WORK, EVEN THOUGH I WILL DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING TO EARN ENOUGH MONEY TO EAT....IT SEEMS THAT ILLEGALS HAVE THE ABUNDANCE OF LABOR POSITIONS IN THE SOUTHWEAST [sic] AND ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE THAT EMPLOYMENT UP.
I HAVE FIXED SAFETY ISSUES ON ALL 3 BASES THAT I HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM...I TRULY FEEL IT MAY BE MY STANCE FOR THE TRUTH THAT HAS PUT ME IN THIS SITUATION...BUT AS SOON AS I AM ABLE TO PHYSICALLY SURVIVE WITH FOOD, SHELTER, AND COMMUNICATIONS, I WILL BE BACK IN THE FIGHT BECAUSE IT IS WAY TOO IMPORTANT NOT TO BE!!!!!!

GUY S RAZER, LTCOL, USAF (RET.)
PS JUST WATCHED A GREQAT [sic] MOVIE ON HBO ALONG THE LINES OF SCHINDLER'S LIST CALLE [sic] "THE GREY ZONE"

Unless he has some serious mental health issues, or is just being weirdly sarcastic, this story makes no sense whatsoever. First of all, how does a retired O-5 end up so poor that he is living in a tent? The base pay for an active duty LTC with 20 years in, begins at $7,158 a month, and that is before any allowances such as flight pay, hazardous duty pay, separation pay, housing allowances etc. I am a reservist, so I am not extraordinarily familiar with the active duty retirement system, which varies depending on when you started your service, when you retire, and how many years you stay in, but to the best of my knowledge the least he could have retired with would be 40% of his base pay, or $2832 a month, and most likely he would get more than that.

And yet this guy cannot even afford to live in a tent or manage to pay for Internet access to maintain his free Myspace account? But he can afford HBO! Not surprisingly, not a single person on the mailing list has questioned his story in the least.