Adam Lanza of Newtown, Connecticut was a child of the suburbs and a child of divorce who at age 20 still lived with his mother.
This morning he appears to have started his day by shooting his mother
Nancy in the face, and then driving to nearby Sandy Hook Elementary
School armed with at least two handguns and at least one semi-automatic
rifle.
There, before turning his gun on himself, he shot and killed 20
children, who President Obama later described as between five and 10
years of age. Six adults were also killed at the school. Nancy Lanza
was found dead in her home.
You mean the guns didn't do it? It was a person?
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http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495
ReplyDeleteSo the 'assault rifle' was not used in the shooting. And he tried to buy a gun earlier in the week and was denied.
Today I heard the medical examiner saying they were all killed with rifle bullets.
DeleteAlso, today they say his mother did not work there.
Lots of confusion in the reporting.
Yes, true. Which is why I usually advocate not rushing to judgement. I failed to follow my own advice this time.
DeleteKnowing that it was apparently afflicted with an Autistic Spectrum Disorder,
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting to note that a large percentage of spree killers have a form of Autistic Spectrum Disorders (previously known a "Aspergers Syndrome"). Persons with such a mental inadequacy have little value to society, although as they are human, the State bears the duty to care for them. Such people should be required to report (or more likely delivered by their current caregivers) to a mental heath center, for an evaluation of the danger which they possess. When released into the community, they ought to be kept under regular mandatory supervision, in order to prevent such a tragedy. I would not however advocate that such a policy apply to all autistics, merely those who would be afflicted with Autistic Spectrum Disorder or "Aspergers Syndrome".
E.N., the only thing you left out was that the institution needs a sign at the entrance: Arbeit mach frei.
DeleteTo everyone else, this is what gun control is all about, the control of a despot. Keep that in mind when you consider infringing on the rights of good citizens.
WOW! I thought that the "Doggie Duo" (dog gone and Laci) was bad! You should be grateful that this guy sounds truly nuts to the rest of us who aren't North Koreans! How does one sleep at night after advocating such derangement?
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What I don't understand is why Mikeb doesn't have any comment about this. Does Mikeb support rounding up and shipping off to a concentration camp anyone who isn't "normal"?
DeleteE.N.,
ReplyDeleteI don't know who you are, but I just discovered this blog recently, and your greatest hits have included lauding the "vibrant culture" of North Korea which starves most of its citizens, and now decreeing that high functioning Autistics have "little value to society."
I'm not in the least comforted by your statement that as humans, they are owed state care because this comment comes off as a grudging concession. Not only does your above comment show a shocking ignorance of how much those with Asperger's often assimilate into society and how few of them have such violent tendencies, but it also shows a Damnable hubris to stand above society and decree who has value to society and who doesn't.
Frankly, I can hold no respect for someone who goes about making declarations of which human beings have value to society based upon their handicaps--especially in light of the past century or so's history of eugenics and all that it brought. Please rethink your attitudes, or kindly GTFO to someplace that welcomes your self appointed position of appraiser of human worth--maybe the "Vibrant Culture" north of the 38th parallel.
To my anonymous critic:
DeleteDo you support the deranged notion of individual liberty? Do you actually believe that you, a mere person is of greater importance than the authority of the collective State, and that it (a common person) deserves freedom? Turn on your television, you American, an watch the results of you precious liberty.
You're here talking, E.N. I've never seen you justify your existence or your mouth. If you were true to your stated beliefs, you'd offer proof of your worth or shut the fuck up.
Delete"I cannot say who I am. Still you know me. Everyone knows Me. If I where to tell you my name, you would be terrified."
DeleteFortunately, I did not say that (he was beheaded).
But the same applies. You do not deserve to know.
In other words, you're a poseur who hates the world because everyone refuses to recognize what he thinks of as his greatness.
DeleteAren't you smart enough to find some porn sites to keep you busy?
Think of this from my perspective. Would YOU want a scandal?
DeleteUnlike some inadequate self aggrandizing pseudointellectual rednecks, I actually have things to do with my time. You serve the purpose of entertainment. I wonder If you said the same crap to Laci? Then again, respect for one's betters requires a sense of decency that a simian such as yourself is wantonly vacant of.
Right--your time? Eating Cheetoes and playing World of Warcraft? Does your mother at least ask you to take out the garbage?
DeleteGreg:
Delete"Eating Cheetoes and playing World of Warcraft?"
Is that your "calender" or just your too-do list?
"Calendar" and "to-do"--how about spending some of your supposedly valuable time using a dictionary and learning how to spell.
DeleteСледуйте за своим собственным советам.
DeleteHow cute. Somebody's learned how to use on-line translators.
DeleteWow E.N., I never thought that my criticism would result in an admission that you are nothing but a collectivist who sneers at individual liberty.
ReplyDeleteTo answer your questions and respond to your challenge to turn on the television, I will admit that yes, in a free society, sick people may do things like this, but in a collectivist society, you still have the same sick people doing similar things, like the serial stabbers in China, plus the wonderful benefits of the Cultural Revolution and the Great leap Forward.
So, the down side of freedom that you pointed out, as horrifying and horrible as it is, is really just the down side of being alive and among other human beings. Meanwhile, I'll just note that whatever your thoughts on individual liberty, we have it here in America (what's left of it at least), and it was bought by blood. There are those of us who still believe in it, and we won't relinquish it to any individual or collective.
To Greg and his anonymous minions:
DeleteThe common subject has no rights in a civilized society. When a government is formed, all rights previously retained by individuals are collectivized, and left to the discretion of the State. The policies that you associate with a "totalitarian" State, ensure life, liberty, and property against infringement by one's fellow citizen. here exists no more devious a means to degenerate a society, than to speak of "freedom" and "individual liberty", but show wanton disregard for fundamental rights such as the right to a safe and orderly community.
There can be no liberty without subjugation, and the individual submission to the whim of the collective authority, for the benefit of all mankind.
Anonymous:
"To answer your questions and respond to your challenge to turn on the television, I will admit that yes, in a free society, sick people may do things like this, but in a collectivist society, you still have the same sick people doing similar things, like the serial stabbers in China, plus the wonderful benefits of the Cultural Revolution and the Great leap Forward."
Do you anything about the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution? Where you in China during the 1963-1976 period? You rely on outside reports for your information.
And what are your sources? The murderers of tens of millions of Chinese citizens? You spout nonsense about subjugation for liberty, but we know how that ends. Inevitably, the leaders use power for their own ends, and many people die.
DeleteI suspect you of being a fake. Regardless, you're evil for supporting such a system. You're likely also a fool. You keep calling yourself my better. I call bullshit. What's your evidence?
My evidence: your existence. I don't fear you. You are a (rather interesting, and sometimes eloquent) insect in a cage.
DeleteWhen no one is allowed to disagrees with you, you seek it anywhere that it can be found.
O.K., now you should lay off the wacky tobacky, E.N. You go from blitheringly stupid to Zen-koan nuts sometimes.
Delete"I would not however advocate that such a policy apply to all autistics, merely those who would be afflicted with Autistic Spectrum Disorder or "Aspergers Syndrome".
ReplyDeleteWell, you obviously don't know much about the syndrome. Many people who are "afflicted" with the variants of Aspergers/Autism are quite intelligent, wonderful, witty and certainly safer to be around than any totally pissed-off good ol' boy who's got his gun with him. The diagnosis and treatment of cognitive and emotional dysfunction is a difficult and demanding profession. There are about the same number of assholish mental healthcare providers as there are doctors of other types, accountants, lawyers, miners, farmers, teachers and firearms owners. There is some regrettable overlap.