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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Vadim Yoockin                        2:5020/1042.50 09 Sep 01 12:54:58
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : Compressors Comparison Test, September 2001 [8/8]                            


¦ Os2.ini                      594,821
==========================================================================
  Compressor and options         size  compress  extract  method    rating
  ========================================================================
* 777 0.04b1 m2                 84,454    11.05     3.78  LZ+Ari     38.28
* 7zip 2.30b2 7z LZMAbt234      86,770     0.89     0.14  LZMA       25.13
  uharc' 0.4np m3               91,126     2.23     0.40  LZ+Ari     27.94
  rk 1.04a01 mx3 M64            91,248     5.93     5.98  PPM        37.25
  rk 1.04a01 mx2                91,248     5.94     5.98  PPM        37.26
  rk 1.04a01 mx1                91,672     5.78     5.80  PPM        37.04
  uharc' 0.4np m2               91,754     1.88     0.40  LZ+Ari     27.76
  uharc' 0.4np mm-              91,965     1.06     0.38  LZ+Ari     26.98
  uharc' 0.4np m1               92,754     1.68     0.41  LZ+Ari     27.85
  uharc' 0.4np mx               93,886     2.19     1.52  PPM        29.78
  ppmonstr H o1 m64             94,239     1.73     1.77  PPMII      29.67
* cabarc 1.00 LZX:21            94,928     1.50     0.01  LZ+Huf     27.87
* ace32 2.0c3 m5 d2048          95,851     0.58     0.66  LZ+Huf     27.86
  ace32 2.0c3 m4                95,883     0.59     0.61  LZ+Huf     27.83
  ace32 2.0c3 m3                95,943     0.57     0.60  LZ+Huf     27.82
  ppmonstr H o16 m64            96,229     1.09     1.12  PPMII      28.94
  cabarc 1.00 LZX:18            96,250     1.27     0.04  LZ+Huf     28.04
  acb 2.00 u                    97,460     3.12     3.18  AC         33.37
  ppmonstr H o12 m64            97,572     1.00     1.05  PPMII      29.15
  dst 0.9 mb 4                  97,579     6.21     0.66  LZ+DHuf    33.97
* rar/win 2.70 m5               97,646     0.50     0.18  LZ+Huf     27.80
* rar/win 2.70 m4               97,683     0.41     0.18  LZ+Huf     27.72
* rar/win 2.70 m3               97,805     0.34     0.17  LZ+Huf     27.67
  acb 2.00 b                    98,158     2.15     2.18  AC         31.59
  bee 0.49 m2d3                 98,195     2.66     2.76  PPM        32.69
  ppmonstr H o1 m32             98,344     1.75     1.77  PPMII      30.83
  ppmonstr H o10 m64            99,141     0.95     0.99  PPMII      29.47
  ppmdh o16 m64                 99,208     0.41     0.48  PPMII      28.44
  rkuc 1.04 o16 b x             99,268     3.85     4.05  PPM        35.47
  rkuc 1.04 o12 b x             99,348     3.55     3.75  PPM        34.89
  acb 2.00 B                    99,396     1.52     1.54  AC         30.67
  bee 0.49 m2d2                 99,405     3.14     3.22  PPM        33.97
  bee 0.49 m3d3                 99,572     3.76     3.84  PPM        35.25
  dst 0.9 mb                   100,227     0.58     0.44  LZ+DHuf    28.86
  ppmdh o12 m64                100,501     0.41     0.43  PPMII      28.75
  bee 0.49 m3d2                100,826     4.15     4.26  PPM        36.41
  imp 1.10 -1 m3 u1000         100,901     0.36     0.18  LZ+Huf     28.56
  ppmonstr H o8 m32            101,068     0.90     0.93  PPMII      29.90
  arjz 0.50 mp9 md2m           101,274     1.38     0.07  LZ+Huf     29.58
  ppmdh o10 m64                101,864     0.38     0.43  PPMII      29.10
  imp 1.10 -1 u1000            102,096     0.31     0.14  LZ+Huf     28.81
  arjz 0.50 mp9                102,276     0.98     0.07  LZ+Huf     29.46
  rk 1.04a01 mf2               102,352     1.80     1.54  ROLZ       31.77
  arjz 0.50 md2m               102,423     0.42     0.07  LZ+Huf     28.94
  rk 1.04a01 mf3               102,580     3.74     3.29  ROLZ       35.52
  arjz 0.50 mp8                102,593     0.66     0.07  LZ+Huf     29.22
  rkuc 1.04 o12 x              103,048     2.52     2.71  PPM        33.85
  rkuc 1.04 o16 x              103,052     2.81     2.96  PPM        34.39
  jar32 1.02d m3               103,083     1.11     0.12  LZ+Huf     29.86
  jar32 1.02d m4               103,085     1.11     0.12  LZ+Huf     29.86
  rkuc 1.04 o8 x               103,236     2.26     2.38  PPM        33.31
* lzds2' s1024 m2              103,379     0.29     0.07  LZ+Ari     29.07
  ppmdh o8 m64                 103,661     0.36     0.41  PPMII      29.56
  arjz 0.50                    103,695     0.37     0.07  LZ+Huf     29.24
* lzds2' s1024 m1              103,779     0.24     0.07  LZ+Ari     29.13
  uharc' 0.4np mz              104,040     0.31     0.45  LZP        29.66
  rkuc 1.04 o16 b              104,444     2.75     2.88  PPM        34.64
  ppmn 1.00b1 O9 ICd           104,468     1.03     1.12  PPM        31.16
  arjz 0.50 mp6                104,793     0.31     0.07  LZ+Huf     29.48
  dc 0.99.298b -mt             104,817     0.31     0.17  BWT+Ari    29.59
  lz (Kabanov) 6               104,890     0.49     0.18  LZ+Huf     29.80
  cabarc 1.00 LZX:15           104,902     0.85     0.01  LZ+Huf     29.99
  lz (Kabanov) 5               104,934     0.40     0.21  LZ+Huf     29.75
  boa 0.58b m15                104,972     2.04     2.08  PPM        33.27
  lz (Kabanov) 4               105,026     0.37     0.19  LZ+Huf     29.73
  bee 0.49 m1d2                105,143     1.96     2.09  PPM        33.25
  rkuc 1.04 o12 b              105,644     2.48     2.64  PPM        34.46
  ppmn 1.00b1 O7 ICd           105,863     0.99     1.10  PPM        31.49
  arjz 0.50 mp5                106,104     0.29     0.07  LZ+Huf     29.83
  rkuc 1.04 o16                106,124     2.28     2.45  PPM        34.20
* arc' (I.Sutton) m1           106,195     0.18     0.28  BWT+Ari    29.95
  arc' (I.Sutton) mm1m1        106,195     0.57     0.23  BWT+Ari    30.29
  ppmn 1.00b1 O6 ICd           106,220     0.98     1.08  PPM        31.56
  ppmn 1.00b1 O9               106,565     1.03     1.13  PPM        31.76
  ppmonstr H o6 m32            106,578     0.85     0.88  PPMII      31.33
  rkuc 1.04 o12                107,332     2.03     2.20  PPM        34.04
  lzds2' s1024 m4              107,513     0.48     0.07  LZ+Ari     30.41
  lzds2' s1024 m3              107,871     0.36     0.07  LZ+Ari     30.39
  ppmn 1.00b1 O7               107,936     0.99     1.11  PPM        32.08
  arc' (I.Sutton) b2           108,205     0.35     0.23  BWT+Ari    30.63
  boa 0.58b m7                 108,297     1.97     2.02  PPM        34.07
  lz (Kabanov) 3               108,360     0.23     0.19  LZ+Huf     30.52
  ppmn 1.00b1 O6               108,367     1.01     1.08  PPM        32.19
  arc' (I.Sutton)              108,530     0.34     0.29  BWT+Ari    30.77
  arc' (I.Sutton) mm1          108,530     0.73     0.29  BWT+Ari    31.16
  rkuc 1.04 o8 b               108,548     2.23     2.42  PPM        34.80
  arc' (I.Sutton) b5           108,578     0.34     0.23  BWT+Ari    30.73
  arc' (I.Sutton) b5mm1        108,578     0.74     0.26  BWT+Ari    31.16
  gca 0.90g -v                 108,620     0.52     0.29  BWT+Ari    30.98
  dc 0.99.298b                 108,745     0.37     0.18  BWT+Ari    30.75
  lzds2' s1024 m5              108,872     0.67     0.08  LZ+Ari     30.99
  ppmdh o6 m64                 109,125     0.34     0.40  PPMII      31.05
  rk 1.04a01                   109,232     0.41     0.37  PPM/ROLZ   31.12
  dc 0.99.298b -b512           109,612     0.38     0.15  BWT+Ari    30.97
  rkuc 1.04 o8                 110,432     1.78     1.99  PPM        34.44
  sbc 0.860 b3m1               110,833     0.37     0.25  BWT+Ari    31.40
  sbc 0.860 b3m2               110,833     0.50     0.25  BWT+Ari    31.53
  sbc 0.860                    110,833     0.50     0.25  BWT+Ari    31.53
  sbc 0.860 b3m3               110,833     0.60     0.30  BWT+Ari    31.68
  lz (Kabanov) 2               110,856     0.24     0.18  LZ+Huf     31.21
  ppmonstr H o5 m16            110,978     0.85     0.84  PPMII      32.51
  ppmn 1.00b1 O5 ICd           111,906     0.83     0.91  PPM        32.82
  szip 1.12 b21 o0             112,637     2.16     0.18  BWT+Ari    33.62
  ba 1.01b5 -24-r              112,996     0.71     0.29  BWT+Ari    32.38
  gca 0.90g                    113,071     0.47     0.23  BWT+Ari    32.10
  rk 1.04a01 mf1               113,332     0.46     0.40  ROLZ       32.34
  ppmdh o5 m16                 113,518     0.32     0.35  PPMII      32.20
  zzip 0.35g -a3               113,539     0.88     0.49  BWT+Ari    32.90
  zzip 0.35g -mx               113,539     0.89     0.49  BWT+Ari    32.91
  ba 1.01b5 -24-T              113,668     0.47     0.29  BWT+Ari    32.33
  ba 1.01b5                    113,697     0.47     0.28  BWT+Ari    32.33
  ppmn 1.00b1                  113,877     0.83     0.93  PPM        33.39
  ybs 0.3e -r                  114,472     0.47     0.25  BWT+Ari    32.51
  bwc/PGCC 0.99 m600k          114,546     0.41     0.22  BWT+Ari    32.44
  dc 0.99.298b -a              115,221     0.65     0.34  BWT+Ari    32.99
  zzip 0.35g -a1               115,235     0.91     0.47  BWT+Ari    33.38
  ybs 0.3e                     115,261     0.47     0.27  BWT+Ari    32.75
  dc 0.99.015b -a              115,366     0.65     0.43  BWT+Ari    33.12
  7zip 2.30b2 zip mx           115,602     1.56     0.07  LZ+Huf     33.74
  ybs 0.3e -rm512k             115,698     0.46     0.26  BWT+Ari    32.85
  compressia' b2048            115,819     0.77     0.58  BWT+Huf    33.52
  szip 1.12 b21 o12            115,872     0.77     0.31  ST+Ari     33.26
  uc 2.3.05 tt                 116,316     0.38     0.07  LZ+Huf     32.76
  ppmonstr H                   116,334     0.78     0.80  PPMII      33.89
  arhangel 1.40a1 -1           116,359     0.64     0.11  LZ+Ari     33.07
  eri 4.14fre -m4              116,368     2.81     0.36  ST+PPM     35.49
  ha 0.999c a1                 116,395     1.18     0.19  LZ+Ari     33.70
  eri 4.14fre -m3              116,417     2.65     0.35  ST+PPM     35.33
  ybs 0.3e -m512k              116,610     0.47     0.26  BWT+Ari    33.12
  ICT UC 1.0                   116,701     0.47     0.29  ST+Ari     33.17
  lz (Kabanov) 1               116,724     0.23     0.18  LZ+Huf     32.83
  7zip 2.30b2 zip              116,772     0.55     0.07  LZ+Huf     33.05
  szip 1.12 b21 o10            116,857     0.63     0.29  ST+Ari     33.38
  compressia' b512             117,150     0.80     0.52  BWT+Huf    33.86
  eri 4.14fre -m2              117,665     2.47     0.31  ST+PPM     35.46
  uc 2.3.05 tn                 117,886     0.31     0.07  LZ+Huf     33.12
  imp 1.10 -2 u1000            117,890     0.49     0.23  BWT+Huf    33.46
  ybs 0.3e -rm256k             117,936     0.45     0.25  BWT+Ari    33.46
  szip 1.12 b21 o8             118,000     0.51     0.27  ST+Ari     33.55
  ppmdh                        118,544     0.30     0.36  PPMII      33.58
  ybs 0.3e -m256k              118,756     0.45     0.25  BWT+Ari    33.68
  bzip2/PGCC 1.0b7 -6          118,794     0.43     0.15  BWT+Huf    33.57
  pkzip 2.50 max               118,845     0.24     0.06  LZ+Huf     33.31
  exp1 1.                      118,865     0.66     0.14  BWT+Huf    33.81
  ppmy 0.3b m64 o9             119,145    14.76    15.02  PPM        62.87
  pkzip 2.04g -ex              119,258     0.32     0.06  LZ+Huf     33.50
  compressia' b256             119,259     0.88     0.46  BWT+Huf    34.46
  dc 0.99.015b                 119,447     0.54     0.40  BWT+Ari    34.11
  eri 4.14fre -m1              119,458     2.38     0.29  ST+PPM     35.85
  esp 1.92                     120,275     0.22     0.04  LZ+Huf     33.66
  pkzip 2.50                   120,381     0.12     0.07  LZ+Huf     33.62
  pkzip 2.04g                  120,582     0.21     0.06  LZ+Huf     33.76
  szip 1.12 b21 o6             121,377     0.38     0.23  ST+Ari     34.32
  ba 1.01b5 -24-z              122,848     0.48     0.29  BWT+Ari    34.89
  rkuc 1.04                    125,216     1.18     1.36  PPM        37.32
  ppmy 0.3b m64 o7             125,816    13.62    13.86  PPM        62.42
  szip 1.12 b21 o4             127,767     0.17     0.19  ST+Ari     35.85
  ann p12                      135,657     3.60     3.51  PPM+NN     44.79
  ppmy 0.3b m64 o5             138,004    11.77    12.16  PPM        62.26
  arhangel 1.40a1 -1-mm6       142,114     0.58     0.12  LZ+Ari     40.17
  ppmy 0.3b m200               143,510    35.97    38.14  PPM       113.97
  ha 0.999c a2                 144,257     2.21     2.04  PPM        44.32
  arhangel 1.40a1 -2-mc8192    145,177     1.00     0.93  PPM        42.25
  lzap 0.20.0b                 146,876     2.50     2.61  DMC        45.90
  hap 3.00                     152,624     1.21     1.35  PPM        44.95
  ppmy 0.3b m64 o4             161,072    10.72    11.09  PPM        66.55


  Âñåãî äîáðîãî. Vadim Yoockin

... A Smith and Wesson beats four aces.
--- Ñòàpûé Äåä ñòîèìîñòüþ 3.00.Alpha4 äîïëàòà â ÑÊÂ UNREG
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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Dmitry Shkarin                       2:5020/400     09 Sep 01 15:09:20
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : Ñòàòüÿ Áóÿíîâñêîãî                                                           


From: "Dmitry Shkarin" <dmitry.shkarin@mtu-net.ru>

                    Hi, All!
    Ïîìíèòñÿ áûë ðàçãîâîð ïðî íåå, íå íàïîìíèò-ëè êòî, ãäå îíà â ðåçóëüòàòå
îêàçàëàñü (òî÷íûé àäðåñîê)?





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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Maxim Smirnov                        2:5020/400     10 Sep 01 11:58:36
 To   : Vadim Yoockin                       
 Subj : Compressors Comparison Test, September 2001 [1/8]                            


From: "Maxim Smirnov" <model@iac.spb.ru>

Sun Sep 09 2001 12:50, Vadim Yoockin wrote to All:

 VY>  English Text(condoyle.txt) 2,042,760
 VY> =========================================================================
 VY> =
 VY>   Compressor and options         size  compress  extract  method   
 VY> rating
 VY>   =======================================================================
 VY> =
 VY> * ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:20 O7      465,761     5.80     6.03  PPM      
 VY> 141.20
 VY>   ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:20 O9      466,022     6.19     6.40  PPM      
 VY> 142.04

À ÷åãî ïàìÿòü-òî æàëååøü? Óæ áóõíóë áû ñðàçó 50 ìá, ñêîðîñòü áû
âûøå áûëà (è ñæàòèå ÷óòîê ëó÷øå). Èëè ýòî ïðîñòî ãëþê îò÷åòà?
È, åñëè óæ ïîøëà òàêàÿ ïüÿíêà, òî ìåòîä ñêîðåå PPMII.

PS
2Vadim only: proxy çàðàáîòàë ;-)
È ÿ ïî÷òè âñå ìàòåðèàëû ïðî÷èòàë.

Maxim

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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Maxim Smirnov                        2:5020/400     10 Sep 01 12:04:44
 To   : Vadim Yoockin                       
 Subj : Compressors Comparison Test, September 2001 [6/8]                            


From: "Maxim Smirnov" <model@iac.spb.ru>

Sun Sep 09 2001 12:53, Vadim Yoockin wrote to All:

 VY>  Dictionary (ca.fdb)          627,761   (from  foliant)
 VY> =========================================================================
 VY> =
 VY>   Compressor and options         size  compress  extract  method   
 VY> rating
 VY>   =======================================================================
 VY> =
 VY> * sbc 0.860 m3a                 87,738     0.51     0.31  BWT+Ari   
 VY> 25.19
 VY>   uharc' 0.4np mx               96,256     3.29     2.66  PPM       
 VY> 32.68

Êðóòî, êðóòî. Hå èíà÷å êàê Sami ñïåöèàëüíî òðåíèðîâàëñÿ ;-)

Maxim

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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Vadim Yoockin                        2:5020/1042.50 10 Sep 01 14:53:58
 To   : Maxim Smirnov                       
 Subj : Re: Compressors Comparison Test, September 2001 [6/8]                        


From: "Vadim Yoockin" <vy@thermosyn.com>
Reply-To: "Vadim Yoockin" <vy@thermosyn.com>

Ïðèâåò, Ìàêñèì!

>  VY> * sbc 0.860 m3a                 87,738     0.51     0.31  BWT+Ari
>  VY> 25.19
>  VY>   uharc' 0.4np mx               96,256     3.29     2.66  PPM
>  VY> 32.68
>
> Êðóòî, êðóòî. Hå èíà÷å êàê Sami ñïåöèàëüíî òðåíèðîâàëñÿ ;-)

Èìåííî :)
Âïðî÷åì, ÿ âñå ðàâíî ñîáèðàëñÿ ýòîò ôàéë ìåíÿòü èç-çà òîãî, ÷òî òàì
åñòü íåæåëàòåëüíàÿ ðåãóëÿðíàÿ ñòðóêòóðà.

>  VY> * ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:20 O7      465,761     5.80     6.03  PPM
>  VY> 141.20
>  VY>   ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:20 O9      466,022     6.19     6.40  PPM
>  VY> 142.04
>
> À ÷åãî ïàìÿòü-òî æàëååøü? Óæ áóõíóë áû ñðàçó 50 ìá, ñêîðîñòü áû
> âûøå áûëà (è ñæàòèå ÷óòîê ëó÷øå). Èëè ýòî ïðîñòî ãëþê îò÷åòà?
> È, åñëè óæ ïîøëà òàêàÿ ïüÿíêà, òî ìåòîä ñêîðåå PPMII.

Äà, ýòî ÿ ïîïðàâëþ.

Âñåãî äîáðîãî,
Âàäèì.

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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Bulat Ziganshin                      2:5093/4.126   10 Sep 01 21:24:33
 To   : Sergei Romancha                     
 Subj : DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?                                              


* Originally in RU.COMPRESS
Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, Sergei!

Thursday September 06 2001, Sergei Romancha writes to All:
 SR>    subj? Ãëàâíîå ÷òîáû ïîä Win pàáîòàëî, ïîä äîñ íåîáÿçàòåëüíî.

ntfs. ïðàâäà, æì¸ò õóæå. íó åù¸ stacker4, íî îí èìõî íè÷åì íå ëó÷øå ds. à íå òû
 ëè ñàì ñîáèðàëñÿ íàïèñàòü ÷òî-òî òèïà òîãî?? à, åñòü åù¸ êàêàÿ-òî ïðîãðàììà, ê
îòîðàÿ íà ëåòó zip/unzip äåëàåò, íî òîðìîç è ãëþêàëî

Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.2
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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Bulat Ziganshin                      2:5093/4.126   10 Sep 01 21:26:26
 To   : Daniil Uspensky                     
 Subj : Ãîòîâèòñÿ íîâûé âûïyñê òåñòîâ VYCCT 6.1                                      


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Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, Daniil!

Thursday September 06 2001, Daniil Uspensky writes to UUCP:
 >>> À çäåñü ìû åãî yâèäèì? ;-)
 Vv>> Ñàìî ñîáîé. Æàëü òîëüêî, ãpàôèêè íå ëåçyò...

 DU> À åñëè â ÓÓÅ?

ìíå ñ òðóäîì âåðèòñÿ, ÷òî òàêîé ñâåòëûé óì, æèâÿ â ïèòåðå, íå ìîæåò íàéòè êàêîé
-íèáóäü èíåò

Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
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Çäpàâñòâyé, All!

   Ýòî ÷åòâ¸pòàÿ âåpñèÿ FAQ-à ïî ïpîñòûì âîïpîñàì, òpåáóþùèì îòíîñèòåëüíî
êîpîòêèõ îòâåòîâ. Åñëè ó âàñ åñòü ïîïpàâêè è äîïîëíåíèÿ - ïpèñûëàéòå.
>Ñïàñèáî âñåì, êòî ñâîè óæå ïpèñëàë. Hîâîñòè, êàê îáû÷íî, âûäåëåíû çíà÷êîì
>"áîëüøå".

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Q: A ôaê y âac òyò ecòü?

A: Òåïåpü - åñòü ;).

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Q: À ÷òî ýòî âîîáùå òàêîå - ñæàòèå? Êàê âîîáùå ìîæíî ÷òî-òî ñæàòü?

A: Ïpîöåññ óñòpàíåíèÿ èçáûòî÷íîñòè. Âîçüì¸ì äëÿ ïpèìåpà ïóñòóþ êàpòîííóþ êîpîáê
ó
îò ìîíèòîpà pàçìåpîì 50*50*50 ñì (êñòàòè, â òàêóþ êîpîáêó ìîæíî óïàêîâàòü
ñpåäíåñòàòèñòè÷åñêîãî ãpàæäàíèíà, ñêàæåì, Âàñþ Ïóïêèíà, pîñòîì 175-180 ñì è
ìàññîé 75-80 êã; ìû ê íåìó åù¸ âåpí¸ìñÿ ;).  pàçëîæåííîì âèäå êîpîáêà èìååò
îáú¸ì 0.125 êóáîìåòpà, íî åñëè å¸ ñëîæèòü ïî ñãèáàì, òî ìû ïîëó÷èì ïëîñêèé ïàêå
ò
pàçìåpîì 1*1ì. Ïîíÿòíî, ÷òî õpàíèòü êîpîáêó â òàêîì âèäå óäîáíåå (à åñëè
ïåpåãíóòü å¸ è ïî îñòàëüíûì ñãèáàì, òî ïëîùàäü ïîëó÷åííîãî ïàêåòà áóäåò åù¸
ìåíüøå), çàòî èñïîëüçîâàòü ïî ïpÿìîìó íàçíà÷åíèþ áåç íåêèõ ïpåäâàpèòåëüíûõ
äåéñòâèé íåâîçìîæíî. Òî æå ñàìîå è ñ äàííûìè - ïpîñòî ïpîöåññ óñòpàíåíèÿ
èçáûòî÷íîñòè íå âñåãäà ñòîëü æå î÷åâèäåí.
   Ñàìûì, íàâåpíîå, î÷åâèäíûì ñïîñîáîì óñòpàíåíèÿ èçáûòî÷íîñòè ÿâëÿåòñÿ RLE (Ru
n
Length Encoding) - çàìåíà öåïî÷êè ïîâòîpÿþùèõñÿ ñèìâîëîâ íà äëèíó ïîâòîpåíèÿ
(ñàì ñèìâîë òîæå íàäî ñîõpàíèòü). Òàê, öåïî÷êà âèäà "ÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀÀ" áóäåò çàìåíåíà
íà {'À', 9}, ãäå 'À' - ïîâòîpÿþùèéñÿ áàéò, à 9 - ñ÷¸ò÷èê ïîâòîpåíèé. Åñëè
ñ÷¸ò÷èê ïîâòîpåíèé áóäåò îäíîáàéòíûì, òî ìîæíî çàêîäèpîâàòü äâóìÿ áàéòàìè äî 25
5
îäèíàêîâûõ áàéò! Hî è ýòî íå ïpåäåë. Ìîæíî ó÷åñòü, ÷òî äëèíà ïîâòîpåíèÿ íå ìîæå
ò
áûòü ìåíüøå 2 - è òîãäà çíà÷åíèå ñ÷¸ò÷èêà pàâíîå 0 áóäåò îçíà÷àòü, ÷òî äëèíà
öåïî÷êè ïîâòîpåíèé - 2 áàéòà. Ñîîòâåòñòâåííî, ìàêñèìàëüíîå çíà÷åíèå äëèíû
ñîñòàâèò 257 áàéò. Ïpèìåíÿþòñÿ è äpóãèå óõèùpåíèÿ.
   Âòîpûì ïî î÷åâèäíîñòè, âèäèìî, ÿâëÿåòñÿ îpãàíèçàöèÿ ñëîâàpÿ è çàìåíà ñëîâ â
èñõîäíîì òåêñòå íà èõ ïîpÿäêîâûå íîìåpà â ñëîâàpå. ×åì äëèííåå çàìåíÿåìûå ñëîâà
è êîpî÷å íîìåpà, òåì âûøå ñòåïåíü ñæàòèÿ.
   Ýòè ñïîñîáû (è èõ ìîäèôèêàöèè) èìåþò ïpàâî íà ñóùåñòâîâàíèå, íî ïîêàçûâàþò â
îáùåì ñëó÷àå íåâûñîêèå påçóëüòàòû. Ãîpàçäî ëó÷øèõ ïîêàçàòåëåé ìîæíî äîáèòüñÿ,
èñïîëüçóÿ àëãîpèòìû ñåìåéñòâà LZ* è äpóãèå, áîëåå ìîùíûå.

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Q: À ÷òî ýòî çà LZ* àëãîpèòìû?

A: (VS) Â 1977 ãîäó Ëåìïåë (Lempel) è Çèâ (Ziv)  îïóáëèêîâàëè ñòàòüþ â "Òpóäàõ
ïî òåîpèè èíôîpìàöèè" (æópíàë) ïîä íàçâàíèåì "A universal algorithm for
sequential data compression". Òàì áûë îïèñàí àëãîpèòì, êîòîpûé ïpèíÿòî
íàçûâàòü LZ77 (ZL77 - äàííîå íàçâàíèå påäêî óïîòpåáëÿåòñÿ). Äàííûé àëãîpèòì
ñòàë ïåpâûì â öåëîì pÿäó ñëîâàpíûõ àëãîpèòìîâ ñæàòèÿ, îáúåäèíÿåìûõ â åäèíîå
ñåìåéñòâî LZ77. Ê äàííîìó ñåìåéñòâó îòíîñÿòñÿ: LZ77 (Lempel, Ziv; 1977), LZR
>(Rodeh; 1981) (ó íåãî òpè àâòîpà: Rodeh M., Pratt V. R., Even S., îäíàêî
>ïpèíÿòî óïîìèíàòü òîëüêî ïåpâîãî), LZSS (Storer, Szymanski, Bell;
>1982 - 86), LZB (Bell;1987), LZH (Brent; 1987), LZRW1 - LZRW3 ñ
>âàpèàöèÿìè (Williams;
1990-91 (LZRW1 âïåpâûå áûë ïpåäëîæåí íå Óèëüÿìñîì)). Ñþäà ìîæíî òàêæå îòíåñòè ä
âóõópîâíåâûå ñëîâàpíûå àëãîpèòìû òèïà LZHUF, LZARI (Okumura; 1988), êîòîpûå ëåæ
àò â îñíîâå LHA, ZIP, GZIP, ARJ, HA "a1", RAR, ACE, JAR, IMP "-1" è ò. ä. Èäåÿ 
âñåõ àëãîpèòìîâ ãpóïïû ñîñòîèò â ñëåäóþùåì: â êà÷åñòâå ñëîâàpÿ ïîèñêà
âûñòóïàåò íåêîòîpàÿ ÷àñòü óæå îápàáîòàííîé èíôîpìàöèè (ôèêñèpîâàííîé èëè
íåôèêñèpîâàííîé äëèíû), íåïîñpåäñòâåííî ïpåäøåñòâóþùàÿ òåêóùåé
îápàáàòûâàåìîé ïîçèöèè. Ïîèñê ïpåñëåäóåò ñâîé öåëüþ íàõîæäåíèå ìàêñèìàëüíîãî
(èëè íå ñîâñåì ìàêñèìàëüíîãî :) ), ñîâïàäåíèÿ òåêóùåé îápàáàòûâàåìîé
ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíîñòè ñ êàêîé-òî óæå îápàáîòàííîé ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíîñòüþ.
Hàéäåííîå ñîâïàäåíèå êîäèpóåòñÿ ïóòåì óêàçàíèÿ ñìåùåíèÿ íà÷àëüíîé ïîçèöèè
ñîâïàäàþùåé ïîñëåäîâàòåëüíîñòè â ñëîâàpå ïîèñêà (÷àùå âñåãî ñìåùåíèå áåpåòñÿ
îòíîñèòåëüíî òåêóùåé ïîçèöèè) è äëèíû ñîâïàäåíèÿ. Ïîñëåäíåå ÿâëÿåòñÿ îäíèì
èç îñíîâíûõ àòpèáóòîâ ñåìåéñòâà. (Çàìåòèì íà äàííîì ýòàïå, ÷òî ïpî
êîíêpåòíûé ñïîñîá êîäèpîâàíèÿ çäåñü íè÷åãî íå ãîâîpèòñÿ. )
Pàññìîòpèì äâà ïpîñòåéøèõ àëãîpèòìà ñåìåéñòâà LZ77: LZ77 è LZSS. Áóäåì
êîäèpîâàòü ñëîâî "îáîpîíîñïîñîáíîñòü", èñïîëüçóÿ ñëîâàpü ïîèñêà ñ
ôèêñèpîâàííûì pàçìåpîì, pàâíûì 7 ñèìâîëàì (äëÿ çàïèñè ñìåùåíèÿ òpåáóåòñÿ 3
áèòà (îäíî çíà÷åíèå çàpåçåpâèpîâàíî ïîä óêàçàíèå îòñóòñòâèÿ ñîâïàäåíèÿ)), è
áóôåpîì ïîèñêà ñ ôèêñèpîâàííûì pàçìåpîì, pàâíûì 2 ñèìâîëàì (òàêèì îápàçîì,
äëÿ óêàçàíèÿ äëèíû òpåáóåòñÿ 1 áèò). Êîä äëÿ ñëîâà, ïîëó÷åííûé ñ ïpèìåíåíèåì
àëãîpèòìà LZ77, áóäåò âûãëÿäåòü ñëåäóþùèì îápàçîì:
<0,0,"î"><0,0,"á"><2,1,"p"><2,1,"í"><2,1,"ñ"><0,0,"ï"><3,2,"î"><0,0,"á">
<0,0,"í"><4,2,"ò"><0,0,"ü">.
Äëèíà êàæäîé êîäîâîé òpèàäû pàâíà 12 áèòàì, åñëè èñõîäíûé àëôàâèò ñîñòîèò èç
256 ñèìâîëîâ (12 = 3 + 1 +8). Ïpè pàññìîòpåíèè àëãîpèòìà LZSS óâåëè÷èì
ñëîâàpü ïîèñêà íà 1 ñèìâîë, òàê êàê â äàííîì ñëó÷àå íåò íåîáõîäèìîñòè
påçåpâèpîâàòü íóëåâîå ñìåùåíèå äëÿ óêàçàíèÿ îòñóòñòâèÿ ñîâïàäåíèÿ.
Àëãîpèòìîì LZSS  çàêîäèpóåò pàññìàòpèâàåìîå ñëîâî òàê:
>0<"î">0<"á">1<2,1>0<"p">1<2,1>0<"í">1
><2,1>0<"ñ">0<"ï">1<3,2>1<2,1>0<"á">1
><8,2>1<5,1>0<"ò">0<"ü">.
Äëÿ çàïèñè ñëóæåáíûõ áèòîâ òpåáóåòñÿ îäèí áèò, äëÿ çàïèñè êîäîâîé ïàpû - 3 +
1 = 4 áèòà, à äëÿ çàïèñè íåçàêîäèpîâàííîãî ñèìâîëà - 8 áèò. Ââåäåíèå
ñëóæåáíîãî áèòà, êîòîpûé pàçëè÷àåò íåçàêîäèpîâàííûå ñèìâîëû è êîäîâûå ïàpû,
>ïîçâîëÿåò ïîâûñèòü ýôôåêòèâíîñòü ñæàòèÿ. Äëÿ LZ êîýôôèöèåíò ñæàòèÿ
>132/18 = 7.33 áèò/ñèì, äëÿ LZSS -- 116/18 =  6.44 áèò/ñèì.
Êpîìå pàçëè÷èÿ â ñïîñîáå êîäèpîâàíèÿ ìåæäó äàííûìè àëãîpèòìàìè ñóùåñòâóåò
òàêæå è íåêîòîpûå äpóãèå pàçëè÷èÿ, íà êîòîpûõ ÿ îñòàíàâëèâàòüñÿ íå áóäó.
Àëãîpèòì LZSS ÿâëÿåòñÿ òàêæå î÷åíü íåýôôåêòèâíûì.  öåëÿõ ïîâûøåíèÿ êà÷åñòâà
ñæàòèÿ íåîáõîäèìî ó÷èòûâàòü ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèå îñîáåííîñòè pàñïpåäåëåíèÿ
ñëóæåáíûõ áèòîâ, çíà÷åíèé ñìåùåíèé, äëèí ñîâïàäåíèé è íåçàêîäèpîâàííûõ
ñèìâîëîâ. Äëÿ ýòîãî ïpèìåíÿþòñÿ êîäû ïåpåìåííîé äëèíû, ïpè ïîñòpîåíèè
êîòîpûõ îáû÷íî èñïîëüçóåòñÿ îäíà èëè äâå ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèå ìîäåëè (ñì.
àëãîpèòìû LZHUF, LZARI è äp.). Â àëãîpèòìàõ LZB è LZH èñïîëüçóåòñÿ
óïpîùåííûé ïîäõîä, êîòîpûé ÿ òàêæå îñòàâëÿþ çà pàìêàìè äàííîãî îáúÿñíåíèÿ.
×òî æå êàñàåòñÿ íåýôôåêòèâíîñòè àëãîpèòìà LZ77, ñâÿçàííîé ñ îáÿçàòåëüíîñòüþ
ñëåäîâàíèÿ íåçàêîäèpîâàííîãî ñèìâîëà ïîñëå êîäîâîé ïàpû, îïèñûâàþùåé
ñîâïàäåíèå, òî çäåñü íå âñå òàê ïëîõî. Â îñíîâå äàííîãî ïîäõîäà ëåæèò òîò
ôàêò, ÷òî ñîâïàäåíèÿ íå ÷àñòî ñëåäóþò äpóã çà äpóãîì (ÈHÎÃÄÀ îíè îêàçûâàþòñÿ
ñîñòàâëÿþùèìè îäíîãî áîëåå äëèííîãî ñîâïàäåíèÿ). Hî ó÷åò âåpîÿòíîñòíîãî
pàñïpåäåëåíèÿ ñëóæåáíûõ áèòîâ â LZSS ÿâëÿåòñÿ, áåçóñëîâíî, áîëåå ýôôåêòèâíûì
ïîäõîäîì. Êñòàòè, â LZP3 òàêæå èñïîëüçóåòñÿ ïîäõîä èç LZ77, íî òàì îí, êàê
ìíå êàæåòñÿ, áîëåå îïpàâäàí.

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Q: Pàçúÿñíèòå ïëèç LZW íà ïàëüöàõ. ß ÷òî-òî íå ñîâñåì ïîíèìàþ êàê
îí pàáîòàåò.

A: (BZ) íà ïàëüöàõ - çàìåíÿåì ñëîâà èõ íîìåpàìè â äèíàìè÷åñêè êîíñòpóèpóåìîì
ñëîâàpå. ïåpâîíà÷àëüíî ñëîâàpü ñîñòîèò òîëüêî èç îäèíî÷íûõ áóêâ. åñëè ñëîâî,
êîòîpîå åñòü â ñëîâàpå, âñòpå÷àåòñÿ â òåêñòå, òî â ñëîâàpü äîáàâëÿåòñÿ ñëîâî íà
îäíó áóêâó áîëüøå.

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Q: À êàêèå åù¸ åñòü ýôôåêòèâíûå àëãîpèòìû?

A: Ñòàòèñòè÷åñêèå. Hàïpèìåp, àëãîpèòì Õàôôìàíà, àpèôìåòè÷åñêèé, PPM,
ìàpêîâñêèé...  îòëè÷èå îò âûøåpàññìîòpåííûõ ñëîâàpíûõ (ãäå êîäèpóåòñÿ
ñîâïàäåíèå öåïî÷êè ñèìâîëîâ ñ óæå îápàáîòàííûìè äàííûìè), ýòè àëãîpèòìû
îïåpèpóþò âåpîÿòíîñòÿìè âñòpå÷àþùèõñÿ ñèìâîëîâ (êàê ñàìèõ ïî ñåáå - Õàôôìàí,
àpèôìåòèêà), òàê è â çàâèñèìîñòè îò êîíòåêñòà (ïpåäûäóùèõ ñèìâîëîâ - PPM,
ìàpêîâñêîå êîäèpîâàíèå) è ìîãóò èñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ â ñîñòàâå äâóõópîâíåâûõ ñõåì òèï
à
LZHUF (Lempel-Ziv + Huffman), ò.å. ïî Õàôôìàíó ñæèìàåòñÿ íå èñõîäíûé òåêñò, à
påçóëüòàò pàáîòû LZ-øíîãî àëãîpèòìà. Ýòî ãîpàçäî ýôôåêòèâíåå, ÷åì èñïîëüçîâàíèå
êàæäîãî èç ýòèõ ìåòîäîâ ïî îòäåëüíîñòè.    Åñòü åù¸ àëãîpèòì ACB, pàçpàáîòàííûé
Ãåîpãèåì Áóÿíîâñêèì è îïóáëèêîâàííûé â æópíàëå "Ìîíèòîp" #8'94. Êëàññèôèöèpîâàò
ü
åãî (àëãîpèòì ;) çàòpóäíÿþòñÿ äàæå ãpàíäû RU.COMPRESS ;).

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Q: À ÷òî òàêîå àpèôìåòè÷åñêîå ñæàòèå è ÷åì îíî îòëè÷àåòñÿ îò Õàôôìåíà?

A: Âîò îòpûâîê èç çàìå÷àòåëüíîãî òåêñòà ARITHM.TXT (arithm.rar â ôýõå
adevcomp):

=== Cut ===
   ÈÄÅß ÀPÈÔÌÅÒÈ×ÅÑÊÎÃÎ ÊÎÄÈPÎÂÀHÈß.

   Ïpè àpèôìåòè÷åñêîì  êîäèpîâàíèè  òåêñò ïpåäñòàâëÿåòñÿ âåùåñòâåííûìè
÷èñëàìè  â èíòåpâàëå îò 0 äî 1. Ïî ìåpå êîäèpîâàíèÿ òåêñòà, îòîápàæàþ-
ùèé åãî èíòåpâàë óìåíüøàåòñÿ, à êîëè÷åñòâî áèòîâ äëÿ åãî ïpåäñòàâëåíèÿ
âîçpàñòàåò. Î÷åpåäíûå ñèìâîëû  òåêñòà ñîêpàùàþò âåëè÷èíó èíòåpâàëà èñ-
õîäÿ  èç çíà÷åíèé èõ âåpîÿòíîñòåé, îïpåäåëÿåìûõ ìîäåëüþ. Áîëåå âåpîÿò-
íûå ñèìâîëû äåëàþò ýòî â ìåíüøåé ñòåïåíè, ÷åì ìåíåå âåpîÿòíûå, è, ñëå-
äîâàòåëüíî, äîâàáëÿþò ìåíüøå áèòîâ ê påçóëüòàòó.
   Ïåpåä íà÷àëîì pàáîòû ñîîòâåòñòâóþùèé  òåêñòó èíòåpâàë  åñòü [0; 1).
Ïpè îápàáîòêå î÷åpåäíîãî ñèìâîëà åãî øèpèíà ñóæàåòñÿ çà ñ÷åò âûäåëåíèÿ
ýòîìó ñèìâîëó ÷àñòè èíòåpâàëà. Hàïpèìåp, ïpèìåíèì ê òåêñòó "eaii!" àë-
ôàâèòà { a,e,i,o,u,! } ìîäåëü ñ ïîñòîÿííûìè âåpîÿòíîñòÿìè, çàäàííûìè â
Òàáëèöå I.

   Òàáëèöà I. Ïpèìåp ïîñòîÿííîé ìîäåëè äëÿ àëôàâèòà { a,e,i,o,u,! }.

     Ñèìâîë  Âåpîÿòíîñòü    Èíòåpâàë
        a        .2    [0.0; 0.2)
        e        .3    [0.2; 0.5)
        i        .1    [0.5; 0.6)
        o        .2    [0.6; 0.8)
        u        .1    [0.8; 0.9)
        !        .1    [0.9; 1.0)

   È êîäèpîâùèêó, è äåêîäèpîâùèêó èçâåñòíî, ÷òî  â ñàìîì íà÷àëå èíòåp-
âàë åñòü [0; 1). Ïîñëå ïpîñìîòpà ïåpâîãî ñèìâîëà "e", êîäèpîâùèê ñóæà-
åò èíòåpâàë äî [0.2; 0.5), êîòîpûé ìîäåëü âûäåëÿåò ýòîìó ñèìâîëó. Âòî-
pîé ñèìâîë  "a" ñóçèò ýòîò íîâûé èíòåpâàë  äî ïåpâîé  åãî ïÿòîé ÷àñòè,
ïîñêîëüêó äëÿ "a" âûäåëåí ôèêñèpîâàííûé èíòåpâàë [0.0; 0.2). Â påçóëü-
òàòå ïîëó÷èì  pàáî÷èé èíòåpâàë   [0.2; 0.26), ò.ê. ïpåäûäóùèé  èíòåpâàë
èìåë øèpèíó â 0.3 åäèíèöû  è îäíà ïÿòàÿ  îò íåãî åñòü 0.06. Ñëåäóþùåìó
ñèìâîëó  "i" ñîîòâåòñòâóåò ôèêñèpîâàííûé èíòåpâàë [0.5; 0.6), ÷òî ïpè-
ìåíèòåëüíî ê pàáî÷åìó èíòåpâàëó [0.2; 0.26) ñóæèâàåò åãî  äî èíòåpâàëà
[0.23, 0.236). Ïpîäîëæàÿ â òîì æå äóõå, èìååì:

    íà÷àëå        [0.0;     1.0   )
   Ïîñëå ïpîñìîòpà "e"     [0.2;     0.5   )
      -"-"-"-      "a"     [0.2;     0.26  )
      -"-"-"-      "i"     [0.23;    0.236 )
      -"-"-"-      "i"     [0.233;   0.2336)
      -"-"-"-      "!"     [0.23354; 0.2336)

   Ïpåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî âñå ÷òî äåêîäèpîâùèê çíàåò   î òåêñòå, ýòî êîíå÷íûé
èíòåpâàë [0.23354; 0.2336). Îí ñpàçó æå ïîíèìàåò, ÷òî ïåpâûé çàêîäèpî-
âàííûé ñèìâîë åñòü  "e", ò.ê. èòîãîâûé èíòåpâàë öåëèêîì ëåæèò â èíòåp-
âàëå, âûäåëåííîì ìîäåëüþ ýòîìó ñèìâîëó ñîãëàñíî Òàáëèöå I. Òåïåpü ïîâ-
òîpèì äåéñòâèÿ êîäèpîâùèêà:

   Ñíà÷àëà        [0.0; 1.0)
   Ïîñëå ïpîñìîòpà "e"     [0.2; 0.5)

   Îòñþäà ÿñíî, ÷òî âòîpîé ñèìâîë - ýòî "a", ïîñêîëüêó   ýòî ïpèâåäåò ê
èíòåpâàëó  [0.2; 0.26), êîòîpûé  ïîëíîñòüþ  âìåùàåò  èòîãîâûé èíòåpâàë
[0.23354; 0.2336). Ïpîäîëæàÿ  pàáîòàòü òàêèì  æå îápàçîì, äåêîäèpîâùèê
èçâëå÷åò âåñü òåêñò.
   Äåêîäèpîâùèêó  íåò íåîáõîäèìîñòè çíàòü çíà÷åíèÿ îáåèõ ãpàíèö èòîãî-
âîãî èíòåpâàëà, ïîëó÷åííîãî  îò êîäèpîâùèêà. Äàæå åäèíñòâåííîãî çíà÷å-
íèÿ, ëåæàùåãî  âíóòpè  íåãî, íàïpèìåp 0.23355, óæå äîñòàòî÷íî. (Äpóãèå
÷èñëà - 0.23354,0.23357 èëè äàæå 0.23354321 - âïîëíå ãîäÿòñÿ). Îäíàêî,
÷òîáû çàâåpøèòü ïpîöåññ, äåêîäèpîâùèêó íóæíî âîâpåìÿ pàñïîçíàòü  êîíåö
òåêñòà. Êpîìå òîãî, îäíî  è  òî  æå ÷èñëî 0.0 ìîæíî ïpåäñòàâèòü  è êàê
"a", è êàê "aa", "aaa" è ò.ä. Äëÿ óñòpàíåíèÿ íåÿñíîñòè ìû äîëæíû îáîç-
íà÷èòü çàâåpøåíèå êàæäîãî òåêñòà ñïåöèàëüíûì ñèìâîëîì EOF, èçâåñòíûì è
êîäèpîâùèêó, è äåêîäèpîâùèêó. Äëÿ àëôàâèòà èç Òàáëèöû I äëÿ ýòîé öåëè,
è òîëüêî  äëÿ íåå, áóäåò èñïîëüçîâàòüñÿ ñèìâîë "!". Êîãäà äåêîäèpîâùèê
âñòpå÷àåò ýòîò ñèìâîë, îí ïpåêpàùàåò ñâîé ïpîöåññ.
   Äëÿ ôèêñèpîâàííîé ìîäåëè, çàäàâàåìîé ìîäåëüþ Òàáëèöû I, ýíòpîïèÿ 5-
ñèìâîëüíîãî òåêñòà "eaii!" áóäåò:

   - log 0.3 - log 0.2 - log 0.1 - log 0.1 - log 0.1 =
           = - log 0.00006 ~ 4.22.

(Çäåñü ïpèìåíÿåì ëîãàpèôì ïî îñíîâàíèþ 10,  ò.ê. âûøåpàññìîòpåííîå êî-
äèpîâàíèå  âûïîëíÿëîñü   äëÿ äåñÿòè÷íûõ   ÷èñåë). Ýòî  îáúÿñíÿåò, ïî÷åìó
òpåáóåòñÿ 5 äåñÿòè÷íûõ öèôp äëÿ êîäèpîâàíèÿ ýòîãî òåêñòà. Ïî ñóòè, øè-
pèíà èòîãîâîãî èíòåpâàëà åñòü 0.2336 - 0.23354 = 0.00006, à ýíòpîïèÿ -
îòpèöàòåëüíûé äåñÿòè÷íûé ëîãàpèôì ýòîãî ÷èñëà. Êîíå÷íî, îáû÷íî   ìû pà-
áîòàåì ñ äâîè÷íîé àpèôìåòèêîé, ïåpåäàåì äâîè÷íûå ÷èñëà è èçìåpÿåì ýíò-
pîïèþ â áèòàõ.
   Ïÿòè äåñÿòè÷íûõ  öèôp êàæåòñÿ ñëèøêîì ìíîãî   äëÿ êîäèpîâàíèÿ òåêñòà
èç  4-õ ãëàñíûõ! Ìîæåò áûòü  íå ñîâñåì óäà÷íî  áûëî çàêàí÷èâàòü ïpèìåp
pàçâåpòûâàíèåì, à  íå  ñæàòèåì. Îäíàêî, ÿñíî, ÷òî  pàçíûå  ìîäåëè äàþò
pàçíóþ ýíòpîïèþ. Ëó÷øàÿ ìîäåëü, ïîñòîåííàÿ íà àíàëèçå îòäåëüíûõ ñèìâî-
ëîâ òåêñòà "eaii!", åñòü ñëåäóþùåå ìíîæåñòâî ÷àñòîò ñèìâîëîâ:
   { "e"(0.2), "a"(0.2), "i"(0.4), "!"(0.2) }.
Îíà  äàåò ýíòpîïèþ, pàâíóþ  2.89  â äåñÿòè÷íîé ñèñòåìå ñ÷èñëåíèÿ, ò.å.
êîäèpóåò èñõîäíûé òåêñò ÷èñëîì   èç 3-õ öèôp. Îäíàêî, áîëåå ñëîæíûå ìî-
äåëè, êàê îòìå÷àëîñü pàíåå, äàþò â îáùåì ñëó÷àå ãîpàçäî ëó÷øèé påçóëü-
òàò.
=== Cut ===

Âñåãî íàèëó÷øåãî!
                  Jee

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Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, All!


Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.2
 * Origin: Çà áåññìåðòèå ïëàòÿò æèçíüþ. Ìîæíî ÷óæîé (2:5093/4.126)


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* Originally in RU.COMPRESS
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* Forwarded by Bulat Ziganshin (2:5093/4.126)
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* From : Serg Tikhomirov, 2:5020/122.166 (Friday February 23 2001 13:51)
* To   : All
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Çäpàâñòâyé, All!

Q: À ÷òî òàêîå BWT?

>A: Burrows-Wheeler Transform - ïpåîápàçîâàíèå Áýppîóçà-Óèëåpà.
>Àëãîpèòì ïîâûøåíèÿ èçáûòî÷íîñòè äàííûõ ïóò¸ì îápàòèìîé ïåpåñòàíîâêè. Hà åãî
îñíîâå â ïîñëåäíåå âpåìÿ íàïèñàíî óæå ÷óòü ëè íå ñ äåñÿòîê
êîìïpåññîpîâ è ïîëíîôóíêöèîíàëüíûõ àpõèâàòîpîâ (YBS, BZIP, ZZIP, BA, DC,
>ERI, BWC, UC îò ICT (íå ïóòàòü ñ UC îò AIP-NL)...). Ïîäpîáíî îïèñàí â
BWT FAQ Âàäèìà Þêèíà.

>Q: À ÷òî òàêîå ST?

>A: Shindler Transform - ïpåîápàçîâàíèå Øèíäëåpà. ("BWT - ýòî ST ïîpÿäêà,
>pàâíîãî pàçìåpó áëîêà." - VY). Påàëèçîâàí, â ÷àñòíîñòè, â SZIP.
>Òàêæå ñì. BWT FAQ Âàäèìà Þêèíà.

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Q: À ÷òî òàêîå ñæàòèå ñ ïîòåpÿìè?

A: Âåpí¸ìñÿ ê óïîìÿíóòîìó Âàñå Ïóïêèíó ;). Åñëè îí - îïûòíûé éîã (ò.å.
ïîäãîòîâëåí îñîáûì îápàçîì), òî íå ñîñòàâèò îñîáîãî òpóäà çàñóíóòü åãî â
óïîìÿíóòóþ êîpîáêó. Åñëè æå îí îáû÷íûé ïpîãpàìì¸p, ñ ápþøêîì, øåéíûì
îñòåîõîíäpîçîì è íåãíóùèìèñÿ ñóñòàâàìè, òî ïîìåñòèòñÿ îí â êîpîáêó òîëüêî ïî
÷àñòÿì ;). Ïpàâäà, ïîñëå èçâëå÷åíèÿ èç îíîé êîpîáêè åãî íåëüçÿ áóäåò
âîññòàíîâèòü â èñõîäíîì âèäå. Âîò ýòî îíî è åñòü - ñæàòèå ñ ïîòåpÿìè ;).
   À åñëè ñåpü¸çíî - ýòî àëãîpèòìû âûáîpà òîãî, ÷åì ìîæíî ïîæåpòâîâàòü pàäè
óìåíüøåíèÿ îáú¸ìà äàííûõ.  ÷àñòíîñòè, GIF æåpòâóåò êîëè÷åñòâîì öâåòîâ íà
êàpòèíêå (íå áîëåå 256), JPEG - ìåëêèìè äåòàëÿìè èçîápàæåíèÿ (è ÷åì êpóïíåå ýòè
 ïîòåpÿííûå äåòàëè, òåì ñèëüíåå ñòåïåíü ñæàòèÿ) è ò.ä.  JPEG (â îáùèõ ÷åpòàõ) 
âûáèpàåòñÿ pàçìåp ýëåìåíòà èçîápàæåíèÿ, äëÿ êîòîpîãî óñpåäíÿåòñÿ çíà÷åíèå öâåòà
, à ïîòîì ïîëó÷åííûé íàáîp öâåòîâ äëÿ ýëåìåíòîâ èçîápàæåíèÿ äîæèìàåòñÿ Õàôôìàíî
ì.  çâóêîâûõ ôîpìàòàõ æåpòâóþò êà÷åñòâîì çâóêà (ñíèæàÿ ÷àñòîòó äèñêpåòèçàöèè, 
íàïpèìåp).

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Q: Âû òóò ãîâîpèëè î êàêîì-òî ïpåïpîöåññèíãå... Ýòî ÷òî?

A: È ñíîâà - çäpàâñòâóé, Âàñÿ! ;) Åñëè ïîñàäèòü Âàñþ íà äèåòó è íà÷àòü
òpåíèpîâàòü åãî íà ïpåäìåò óëó÷øåíèÿ pàñòÿæêè è ïîâûøåíèÿ ïîäâèæíîñòè
ñóñòàâîâ, òî â êîpîáêó ïî îêîí÷àíèè òpåíèpîâî÷íîãî ïpîöåññà ïîëåçåò
óæå ñîâñåì íå  ïpåæíèé Âàñÿ... Òàê æå ìîæíî ïîñòóïèòü è ñ äàííûìè
- îpãàíèçîâàòü èõ íåêîòîpûì îápàçîì, íàïpèìåp, íàïóñòèâ íà íèõ RLE ïåpåä
îñíîâíûì àëãîpèòìîì (î÷åíü ïîìîãàåò äëÿ áîpüáû ñ áîëüøèìè ôàéëàìè òèïà
DBF - âûèãpûø âî âpåìåíè ìîæåò áûòü â pàçû, â ñæàòèè - äî äåñÿòêîâ ïpîöåíòîâ îò
 pàçìåpà àpõèâà (â çàâèñèìîñòè îò êîíêpåòíîé påàëèçàöèè îñíîâíîãî àëãîpèòìà).
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Q: E8 - ýòî ÷òî?

A(BZ): Ýòî êîãäà _ÑÌÅÙÅHÈÅ_, çàïèñûâàåìîå â àññåìáëåpíîì êîäå ïîñëå êîìàíäû E8
(relative near call), çàìåíÿåòñÿ íà _ÀÁÑÎËÞÒHÛÉ_ÀÄPÅÑ_. Ïîñêîëüêó åñòü êàêîé-òî
 íå î÷åíü áîëüøîé íàáîp àäpåñîâ ïîäïpîãpàìì, ñòåïåíü èçáûòî÷íîñòè ôàéëà óâåëè÷è
âàåòñÿ.

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Q: À ïî÷åìó ïàêîâàíàÿ win32 ïpîãpàììà â ïàìÿòè ìåñòà áîëüøå çàíèìàåò, ÷åì
   íåïàêîâàííàÿ?

A(RT): Ñ îáû÷íîé ïpîãpàììîé ìåíåäæåp ïàìÿòè ìîæåò à) íå ÷èòàòü íóæíûé êóñîê
êîäà ñ äèñêà, ïîêà èñïîëíåíèå íå äîéäåò äî ýòîãî ìåñòà; á) ïpè íåõâàòêå
ïàìÿòè íå çàñîâûâàòü ñòpàíèöó â ñâîï, à ïpîñòî âûêèíóòü -- åå ñîäåpæèìîå
íåèçìåííî è âñåãäà ì.á. ïåpå÷èòàíî èç èñõîäíîãî ôàéëà; â) äëÿ íåñêîëüêèõ êîïèé
çàïóùåííîé ïpîãpàììû èëè DLL èñïîëüçîâàòü îäèí è òîò æå êóñîê ôèçè÷åñêîé ïàìÿòè
 äëÿ õpàíåíèé êîäà -- ñîäåpæèìîå æå îäèíàêîâîå. Âñå ýòî ýêîíîìèò ôèçè÷åñêóþ ïàì
ÿòü è âpåìÿ.
   Ïàêîâàííàÿ ïpîãpàììà äîëæíà pàñïàêîâàòüñÿ öåëèêîì -- ìåíåäæåp ïàìÿòè äîëæåí
âûäåëèòü ôèçè÷åñêîé ïàìÿòè ïîä _ïîëíûé_ îáúåì ïpîãpàììû; ñòpàíèöû, êóäà
pàñïàêîâàëîñü, óæå íå ìîãóò áûòü ïpîñòî òàê âûêèíóòû èç ïàìÿòè -- â íèõ æå
_ïèñàëîñü_, ìåíåäæåp òåïåpü îáÿçàí ñëèâàòü èõ ñâîï. Ïóíêò (â) âîîáùå îòïàäàåò -
- pàç â ñòpàíèöû ïèñàëîñü, áóäåì äåpæàòü ñâîþ êîïèþ äëÿ êàæäîãî ýêçåìïëÿpà
ïpîãpàììû/DLL.
    Ïîýòîìó ïàêîâàòü áîëüøèå ïàêåòû òèïà îôèñà èëè ñèñòåìíûå DLL -- ñàìîóáèéñòâ
î. Òpåáîâàíèÿ ê ôèçè÷åñêîé ïàìÿòè âîçpàñòàþò â íåñêîëüêî pàç.
   Ýòèõ îãpàíè÷åíèé íåò, íàñêîëüêî ÿ çíàþ, òîëüêî â OS/2, ãäå pàñïàêîâêà ñòpàíè
ö âñòpîåíà â ñàìî ÿäpî, â ìåíåäæåp ïàìÿòè.

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Q: Êàê âçëîìàòü ïàpîëü íà...

A: ZIP: (SB) ápóòýôîpñ ;)
   (SZ) Äëÿ ZIP åñòü ìåòîä äëÿ èçâåñòíîãî íåçàøèôpîâàíîãî òåêñòà (íå
íåçàïàêîâàííîãî, à èìåííî çàïàêîâàííîãî è íåçàøèôpîâàíîãî;).
   RAR: Îí æå, BruteForce.

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Q: À-à-à! À ÷òî òàêîå ápóòýôîpñ?

A: Ïåpåáîp. Âîçìîæíû âàpèàíòû:
à) ïåpåáîp _âîîáùå_âñåõ_ âîçìîæíûõ ïàpîëåé (a, b, ... aab, aac, ...);
á) ïåpåáîp "îãpàíè÷åííûé" - êîãäà ñíà÷àëà òùàòåëüíî ñîñòàâëÿåòñÿ íàáîp âîçìîæíû
õ ñèìâîëîâ ïàpîëÿ, à ïîòîì ñì à);
â) ïåpåáîp "ñëîâàpíûé" - ÷àñòî ïàpîëÿìè ñëóæàò îñìûñëåííûå ñëîâà, òóò ìîæåò
îêàçàòüñÿ äîñòàòî÷íûì è íåáîëüøîé ñëîâàpèê èç pàñïpîñòpàí¸ííûõ èì¸í,
÷åòûp¸õçíà÷íûõ ÷èñåë (ãîä pîæäåíèÿ è ïp.) è, ïàpäîí, ìàòåpíûõ ñëîâ;
ã) ïåpåáîp îòäåëüíûõ ñèìâîëîâ ïàpîëÿ - íàïpèìåp, ìû çíàåì ïÿòü èç äåñÿòè áóêâ
ïàpîëÿ è âèäåëè, êóäà ïpèìåpíî äîòÿãèâàëèñü ïàëüöû åãî àâòîpà. Òóò íå íàäî
ïåpåáèpàòü âñ¸ - äîñòàòî÷íî çàäàòü íåêèå íàáîpû ñèìâîëîâ äëÿ êîíêpåòíûõ ïîçèöèé
 ïàpîëÿ. Ê ñëîâó - ïîèñê ïåpåáîpîì òèïà à) äåñÿòèñèìâîëüíîãî ïàpîëÿ íà àpõèâ RA
R ìîæåò íå çàêîí÷èòüñÿ ïpè æèçíè íûíåøíåãî ïîêîëåíèÿ ;(.

--------------------------------
>Q: À ãäå âçÿòü òåñòîâûé íàáîp äëÿ àpõèâàòîpîâ?

>A(VY): åñëè íåò äpóãèõ ïpåäëîæåíèé è/èëè âîçpàæåíèé, áóäóò èñïîëüçîâàíû
>òåêñòû èç àpõèâîâ ñ ftp://hps.mpei.ac.ru/pub/texts/fantast/... Âñå òåêñòû
>áûëè ïåpåïàêîâàíû â .PMD (PPMonstr Gpre Oct-4) è çàïèñàíû íà
>http://artest.lgg.ru/txt/ (òåïåpü èõ äëèíà 24,307,856)

>Èç íèõ áóäåò ñîápàí _îäèí_ íàáîp äëÿ ARTest-a, à íå 2 èëè 3, ò.ê. âîçìîæíî
>áóäóò åùå äîáàâëåíû òåêñòû íà íåìåöêîì, ôpàíöóçñêîì, èòàëüÿíñêîì è èñïàíñêîì
>(íàñ÷åò êèòàéñêîãî, ÿïîíñêîãî è õèíäè åñòü áîëüøèå ñîìíåíèÿ).

--------------------------------
Q: À ãäå îáî âñ¸ì ýòîì ìîæíî ïî÷èòàòü ïîäpîáíåå?

A:  ÷àñòíîñòè, çäåñü.  ýõó RU.COMPRESS áóäóò ïåpèîäè÷åñêè ïîñòèòüñÿ îïèñàíèÿ
àëãîpèòìîâ (âpîäå BWT FAQ Âàäèìà Þêèíà). Î÷åíü ïîìîãàåò èçó÷åíèå pàçíûõ ñòàòåé 
è èñõîäíèêîâ (ãîâîpÿò, èõ åñòü â ôàéë-ýõàõ ADEVCOMP è AUTLCOMP). Hó è íåêîòîpîå
êîëè÷åñòâî ññûëîê â èíåòå:

>_Âñ¸ ïîäpÿä_ (â ïîëíåéøåì áåñïîpÿäêå; êàê áû ýòî âñ¸ ñòpóêòópèpîâàòü? ;)

ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack
(àpõèâàòîpû, èñõîäíèêè, ÅÕÅïàêåpû, îáîëî÷êè, óíïàêåpû, ïîèñê, âîññòàíîâëåíèå,
èäåíòèôèêàöèÿ àpõèâîâ...)

>_Ñpàâíåíèå ïpîèçâîäèòåëüíîñòè_
>(VY) http://members.xoom.com/vycct
>Òàì óêàçàíû ìåòîäû, êîòîpûå èñïîëüçóþò òåñòèpóåìûå àpõèâàòîpû.

>_Ñòàòüè îá ýõîòàãå_

http://sochi.net.ru/~maxime/compression.shtml
>http://www.compressionconsult.com
http://www.compression-pointers.com
http://www.hn.is.uec.ac.jp/~arimura/compression_links.html
http://algo.4u.ru/ - Pàçäåë "Êîìïpåññèÿ".
>http://book.itep.ru/2/26/COMP_26.htm - õîpîøåå îïèñàíèå îñíîâíûõ
>àëãîpèòìîâ ñæàòèÿ
>http://sequence.rutgers.edu/sequitur/
>http://dogma.net/DataCompression

>_FAQ's_

>(AA) http://www.mkrsoft.ru/rar/faq_all.shtml

>_Èñõîäíèêè_

>(EDS): êîäèpîâàíèå ñ èñïîëüçîâàíèåì îãpàíè÷åííîãî íàáîpà ñèìâîëîâ.
>http://www.pilabs.org.ua/sh/sh002.zip   - êîäåp+òåêñòîâêà
>http://www.pilabs.org.ua/sh/sh002s.zip - + èñõîäíèêè
>Àpõèâû íà ñàìîì äåëå pàpîâñêèå ;).

>_Arithm_

>(KB)Compression Pointers: http://www.internz.com/compression-pointers.html
>(KB)Compression Algorithms:
>http://www.rasip.etf.hr/research/compress/algorithms/index.html

>_PPM_

>(VY)À åùå åñòü PPM-FAQ Ìàêñèìà Ñìèpíîâà, êîòîpûé ìîæíî íàéòè íà
>http://arctest.cjb.net

>_BWT_

>(VY)http://www.ictcompress.com/options_X.html - ôèëüòpû äëÿ UC îò ICT
>(VY)http://www.ictcompress.com - À ÷òî ýòî çà UC îò ICT? ;)

>_LZ*_

>(VY) http://www.arturocampos.com/cp_ch5-0.html

>_CTW_

>(DS) http://ei1.ei.ele.tue.nl/~frans/ResearchCTW.html -pàçëè÷íûå ñòàòüè

>_ACE_

>http://www.winace.com/ftp/ace20.exe
>ftp://fido.urc.ac.ru/pub/fileecho/os2/gfd.app.arc/ace20.exe
>ftp://ftp.mikon.ru/FILEECHO/GFD/APP/ARC/ace20.exe
>ftp://ddt.demos.su/pub/fileecho/GFD.APP.ARC/ace20.exe

_Cabarc SDK_

http://download.microsoft.com
/download/platformsdk/Update/1/WIN98/EN-US/CAB-16.cab

VF>ýòî 16-pàçpÿäíûé, à âîò 32-pàçpÿäíûé:
VF>http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/management/cab/cab-sdk.exe

>_Image compression_

>   Ä.Ñ. Âàòîëèí. ÀËÃÎPÈÒÌÛ ÑÆÀÒÈß ÈÇÎÁPÀÆÅHÈÉ.
>(MZ) Ïî-ìîåìó, ññûëêà äîëæíà áûòü òàêàÿ:
>   http://graphics.cs.msu.su/library/our_publications/

>_Sound compression_

>(AK) Êîìïpåññîpû äëÿ òåñòèpîâàíèÿ è ñpàâíåíèÿ ìîæíî âçÿòü íà
>http://www.chat.ru/~dkutsanov/
>(VLV) http://www.meridian.co.uk - ôîpìàò MLP

>_Ïîäáîp ïàpîëåé_

>(SVL)http://www.password-crackers.com/crack.html - âåñüìà ñîëèäíàÿ
>ïîäáîpêà íå òîëüêî ïpîãpàìì, íî è ñëîâàpåé, áèáëèîòåêè ôîpìèpîâàíèÿ
>ïàpîëåé - ýòî ìîæåò ïpèãîäèòüñÿ.

>_Ïpåîápàçîâàíèå äàííûõ_ (à êàê åù¸ ýòî íàçâàòü? ;)

>(KB)open source ïpîãpàììà-"êîëëåêöèÿ" àëãîpèòìîâ
>îápàáîòêè (ïpåîápàçîâàíèÿ) äàííûõ. Âîîáùå. Hå òîëüêî óïàêîâêè äàííûõ.
>Äóìàþ, ÷åpåç íåäåëþ âûñòàâëþ ìàíèôåñò íà ñàéòå ïpîåêòà
>http://ara.sourceforge.net

--------------------------------
Èíèöèàëû â ñêîáêàõ:
BZ - Bulat Ziganshin (2:5093/28.126)
RT - Roman Trunov (2:5022/2)
SB - Sergey Borodachev (2:5048/7.6)
SZ - Serguey Zefirov (2:5020/313.9)
VS - Vladimir Semenjuk (semenjuk@green.ifmo.ru; semenjuk@unitel.spb.ru)
VF - Vsevolod Fedotov (2:5020/500)
VY - Vadim Yoockin (vy@thermosyn.com)
SVL - Ñåì¸íîâ Âÿ÷åñëàâ Ëüâîâè÷, (svl@ns.tchercom.ru)
KB - Konstantin Boyandin (2:5020/175.2)
DS - Dmitry Shkarin (dmitry.shkarin@mtu-net.ru)
MZ - Maxime Zakharov (maxime@tnet.sochi.net)
AA - Andrew Aksyonoff (2:5036/29.2)
AK - Alexey Komarov (2:5054/66.1)
EDS - Eugene D. Shelwien (shelwien@thermosyn.com)
VLV - Vladimir Vassilevsky (vlv@fullnet.net)


Âñåãî íàèëó÷øåãî!
                  Jee

-+- 
 + Origin: Îâåí Îâíà îâíîì íå íàêîpìèò. (2:5020/122.166)
=============================================================================

Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, All!


Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.2
 * Origin: Çà áåññìåðòèå ïëàòÿò æèçíüþ. Ìîæíî ÷óæîé (2:5093/4.126)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Bulat Ziganshin                      2:5093/4.126   10 Sep 01 21:28:38
 To   : Daniil Uspensky                     
 Subj : PPM                                                                          


* Originally in RU.COMPRESS
Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, Daniil!

Thursday September 06 2001, Daniil Uspensky writes to Bulat Ziganshin:
 BZ>> íå yäèâëþñü, åñëè ýòî è åñòü suffix trees. ÿ òàêîå äåëàë, à èäåþ
 BZ>> êàæèñü ñîäpàë èç comp-2, êîòîpûé áûë â íàáîpå yïàêîâùèêîâ îò íèêî
 BZ>> äå âpèc

 DU> Ãäå ýòî ìîæíî âçÿòü?

íàïèøè ìíå íà åìûë. ìîæåò, íà ðàáîòå ýòîò àðõèâ íàéä¸òñÿ

 DU> 2All: Êñòàòè, êàêîé ñàéò ïîñîâåòyåòå ïpî ñàáæ? Håáåçûçâåñòíûé Faq ÿ
 DU> ÷èòàë.

ÿ êèíóë ìèíèôàê. êñòàòè, òàì óïîìèíàåòñÿ ñàéò sochi... òàê âîò, íà í¸ì åñòü èñõ
îäíèêè ìîåãî CM, î êîòîðîì øëà ðå÷ü âûøå

Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.2
 * Origin: Çà áåññìåðòèå ïëàòÿò æèçíüþ. Ìîæíî ÷óæîé (2:5093/4.126)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Vadim Yoockin                        2:5020/1042.50 10 Sep 01 22:09:41
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : Re: Compressors Comparison Test, September 2001 [0/8]                        


Ïpèâåòñòâóþ, All!

Îáåùàííîå äîïîëíåíèå ê PPMN ñ 50Mb ïàìÿòè.

¦ English Text(condoyle.txt) 2,042,760
==========================================================================
  Compressor and options         size  compress  extract  method    rating
  ========================================================================
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50         468,654     3.76     3.95  PPMII     137.89
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50 O7      465,511     5.44     5.70  PPMII     140.44
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50 O9      465,367     6.37     6.57  PPMII     142.20
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50          498,629     2.70     2.83  PPMII     144.03
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50 O7       491,941     4.18     4.37  PPMII     145.20
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50 O9       493,269     5.15     5.32  PPMII     147.48

¦ Russian Text (stand.txt)   1,639,139
==========================================================================
  Compressor and options         size  compress  extract  method    rating
  ========================================================================
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50         420,468     3.29     3.49  PPMII     123.57
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50 O7      417,063     4.71     4.95  PPMII     125.51
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50 O9      417,472     5.26     5.46  PPMII     126.68
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50          447,848     2.80     2.94  PPMII     130.14
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50 O7       441,339     4.35     4.57  PPMII     131.51
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50 O9       441,442     5.44     5.60  PPMII    133.66

¦ C-sources (Watcom 10.0)    1,890,501
==========================================================================
  Compressor and options         size  compress  extract  method    rating
  ========================================================================
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50         258,627     1.91     2.05  PPMII      75.80
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50 O7      235,139     2.33     2.51  PPMII      70.15
  ppmn 1.00b1 MT1 M:50 O9      228,390     2.51     2.66  PPMII      68.61
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50          267,827     1.79     1.92  PPMII      78.10
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50 O7       244,240     2.23     2.40  PPMII      72.47
  ppmn 1.00b1 DA M:50 O9       236,326     2.41     2.59  PPMII      70.64

  Âñåãî äîáðîãî. Vadim Yoockin

... A Smith and Wesson beats four aces.
--- Ñòàpûé Äåä ñòîèìîñòüþ 3.00.Alpha4 äîïëàòà â ÑÊÂ UNREG
 * Origin: yoockinv@mtu-net.ru,yoockinv@mail.ru,ICQ:44536013 (2:5020/1042.50)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Eugene D. Shelwien                   2:5020/400     10 Sep 01 23:48:44
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : Î ñëîâàðÿõ ðàçìåðîì áîëüøå 256Ì                                              


From: "Eugene D. Shelwien" <shelwien@thermosyn.com>
Reply-To: shelwien@thermosyn.com

Hi!

Ìåíÿ äàâíî èíòåðåñîâàëî, ïî÷åìó íè â îäíîì êîìïðåññîðå
äî ñèõ ïîð ìíå íå äîâåëîñü óâèäåòü âîçìîæíîñòè îòâåäåíèÿ
ïîä ñëîâàðü áîëüøåãî, ÷åì 256M, êîëè÷åñòâà ïàìÿòè.
Hî ýòî êàçàëîñü ïñèõîëîãè÷åñêîé ïðîáëåìîé è äëÿ ñåáÿ
ÿ åå ðåøèë - ïîñòàâèâ äåôîëòîì â ppmy ðàçìåð 2048M. ;)
Òåïåðü æå, â ñâÿçè ñ îáíàðóæåíèåì â VYCCT êó÷è ôàéëîâ,
íà êîòîðûõ äàæå è 256M çàêàí÷èâàþòñÿ äîâîëüíî áûñòðî
(ïðè÷åì íå òîëüêî ó ìåíÿ, íî è ó ppmonstr'à -o1), 
óäàëîñü âûÿñíèòü, ÷òî 256M äèíàìè÷åñêîé ïàìÿòè malloc'îì 
â ñÿõ ïîëó÷èòü ïîä Win9x ïðîñòî-òàêè íèêàê íåëüçÿ.
Èç HeapAlloc'à óïðàâëåíèå ïåðåäàåòñÿ â ÷óäíóþ òàêóþ
ôóíêöèþ, íà÷èíàþùóþñÿ ñëåäóþùèì îáðàçîì:

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ; int __cdecl sub_BFF7A44A(int hHeap,int BlkSize,int Flags)
> sub_BFF7A44A  proc near               ; CODE XREF: .text:BFF7B392p
>                                       ; .text:BFF7B461p ...
> var_4         = dword ptr -4
> hHeap         = dword ptr  8
> BlkSize               = dword ptr  0Ch
> Flags         = dword ptr  10h
> 
>               push    ebp
>               mov     ebp, esp
>               sub     esp, 4
>               cmp     [ebp+BlkSize], 0FFFFF98h
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>               push    ebx
>               push    esi
>               push    edi
>               jbe     short loc_BFF7A468
>               push    8
>               call    sub_BFF7C9A0
>               jmp     loc_BFF7A5B3
> loc_BFF7A468:                         ; CODE XREF: sub_BFF7A44A+10j
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

À ïîñëå íåêîòîðûõ ïîèñêîâ îáíàðóæèëîñü ñëåäóþùåå "ïðèçíàíèå":

> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  PRB: Windows 95/98 Heaps Have A 255.9 MB Allocation Ceiling
>  Article ID: Q198959
> -------------------------------------------------
> The information in this article applies to:
> 
>  * Microsoft Win32 Software Development Kit (SDK), on platform(s):
>    - the operating system: Microsoft Windows 95
>    - the operating system: Microsoft Windows 98
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
>    SYMPTOMS
> 
>    There is a hard-coded limit  on  Windows  95/98  for  a  single  heap
> allocation. This limit is 104 bytes shy of 256 MB.
>    This limit will apply to HeapAlloc() and any function that internally
> calls  HeapAlloc();  including  LocalAlloc(),  GlobalAlloc(),  and  many
> implementations of the C-runtime library's malloc() function.
> 
>    STATUS
> 
> This behavior is by design.
> 
>    MORE INFORMATION
> 
>    If you expect your memory  blocks  to  be  larger  than  one  or  two
> megabytes, you can avoid significant performance  degradation  by  using
> the VirtualAlloc() or VirtualAllocEx() functions instead.  When  working
> with the heap functions, memory  allocations  are  classified  into  the
> following three block size ranges:
> 
>  * 0 - 4 MB
> 
> The heap functions work well for allocations in this range.
> 
>  * 4 - 255.9 MB
> 
> The heap functions work for allocations in this range, but they are  not
> recommended due to poor performance.
> 
>  * 255.9 MB and up
> 
> The heap functions do not support allocations above 255.9 MB.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------

Âûâîä: ïîä Win9x íóæíî ïîëüçîâàòüñÿ VirtualAlloc'îì, êîèé áûñòðåé ðàáîòàåò
(ppmy òåïåðü òðàòèò íà book1 íà ñåêóíäó ìåíüøå %). Êðîìå òîãî, VirtualAlloc
äîêóìåíòèðîâàííî èíèöèàëèçèðóåò ïàìÿòü íóëÿìè, òàê ÷òî ýòî ìîæíî ó÷èòûâàòü
è ýêîíîìèòü åùå êàêîå-òî âðåìÿ. Hó è ñòàíîâÿòñÿ äîñòóïíû âñÿêèå ôèøêè - äëÿ
ïðèìåðà ìîæíî ïîñìîòðåòü íèæåñëåäóþùåå.

Ñ÷àñòëèâî!
 - Øåëâèí


/*

   This section explains how to use the  virtual  memory  functions  for
dynamic allocation.
   The following example illustrates the use  of  the  VirtualAlloc  and
VirtualFree functions in reserving and committing memory as needed for a
dynamic array. First, VirtualAlloc is called to reserve a block of pages
with NULL specified as the base address parameter, forcing the kernel to
determine the location of  the  block.  Later,  VirtualAlloc  is  called
whenever it is necessary to commit a page from this reserved region, and
the base address of the next page to be committed is specified.
   The example uses try-except structured exception-handling  syntax  to
commit pages from the reserved region.  Whenever a page fault  exception
occurs during the execution of the try block, the filter function in the
expression preceding  the  except  block  is  executed.  If  the  filter
function can allocate another page, execution continues in the try block
at the point where the  exception  occurred.  Otherwise,  the  exception
handler in the except block is  executed.  For  more  information  about
structured exception handling, see Structured Exception Handling.
   As an alternative to  dynamic  allocation,  the  process  can  simply
commit  the  entire  region  instead  of  only  reserving  it.  However,
committing the region  consumes  physical  storage  that  might  not  be
needed, making it unavailable for use by other  processes.  The  example
uses VirtualFree to free the reserved and committed  pages  when  it  is
finished with them.  The function is called twice: first to decommit the
committed pages and again to  release  the  entire  region  of  reserved
pages.

*/


#define PAGELIMIT 80
#define PAGESIZE  0x1000

INT  PageFaultExceptionFilter(DWORD);
VOID MyErrorExit(LPTSTR);

LPTSTR lpNxtPage;
DWORD  dwPages = 0;

VOID UseDynamicVirtualAlloc(VOID) 
{
  LPVOID lpvBase;
  LPTSTR lpPtr;
  BOOL bSuccess;
  DWORD i;

  // Reserve pages in the process's virtual address space.

  lpvBase = VirtualAlloc(
         NULL,               // system selects address   
         PAGELIMIT*PAGESIZE, // size of allocation       
         MEM_RESERVE,        // allocates reserved pages 
         PAGE_NOACCESS);     // protection = no access   

  if (!lpvBase) MyErrorExit("VirtualAlloc reserve");

  lpPtr = lpNxtPage = (LPTSTR) lpvBase;

  // Use try-except structured exception handling when
  // accessing the pages. If a page fault occurs, the
  // exception filter is executed to commit another page
  // from the reserved block of pages.

  for( i=0; i < PAGELIMIT*PAGESIZE; i++ ) {
    try {
      lpPtr[i] = 'a'; // Write to memory.
    }
    // If there is a page fault, commit another page
    // and try again.
    except ( PageFaultExceptionFilter(GetExceptionCode()) ) {
      // This is executed only if the filter function is
      // unsuccessful in committing the next page.
      ExitProcess( GetLastError() );
    }
  }

  /* Release the block of pages when you are finished using them. */

  // First, decommit the committed pages.
  bSuccess = VirtualFree(
            lpvBase,          // base address of block    
            dwPages*PAGESIZE, // bytes of committed pages 
            MEM_DECOMMIT);    // decommit the pages       

  // Release the entire block.
  if (bSuccess)
    bSuccess = VirtualFree(
              lpvBase,        // base address of block     
              0,              // releases the entire block 
              MEM_RELEASE);   // releases the pages       

}

INT PageFaultExceptionFilter(DWORD dwCode) 
{
  LPVOID lpvResult;

  // If the exception is not a page fault, exit.
  if ( dwCode!=EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION ) {
    printf("exception code = %d\n", dwCode);
    return EXCEPTION_EXECUTE_HANDLER;
  }

  printf("page fault\n");

  // If the reserved pages are used up, exit.
  if ( dwPages>=PAGELIMIT ) {
    printf("out of pages\n");
    return EXCEPTION_EXECUTE_HANDLER;
  }

  // Otherwise, commit another page.
  lpvResult = VirtualAlloc(
      (LPVOID) lpNxtPage, // next page to commit  
      PAGESIZE,           // page size, in bytes  
      MEM_COMMIT,         // alloc committed page 
      PAGE_READWRITE);    // read-write access    

  if ( !lpvResult ) {
    printf("VirtualAlloc failed\n");
    return EXCEPTION_EXECUTE_HANDLER;
  }

  // Increment the page count, and advance lpNxtPage
  // to the next page.
  dwPages++;
  lpNxtPage += PAGESIZE;

  // Continue execution where the page fault occurred.
  return EXCEPTION_CONTINUE_EXECUTION;
}
--- ifmail v.2.15dev5
 * Origin: Shadow Research Center (2:5020/400)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : IP Robot                             2:5093/4.126   11 Sep 01 01:05:58
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : News at ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/                                  


  ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/sawzip98.zip
SAWZip v2.0 - DLL for reading, creating and extracting from from ZIP files (58,
705 bytes)


--- PktMake.pl
 * Origin: PktMake.pl (2:5093/4.126)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Daniil Uspensky                      2:5030/2222.7  11 Sep 01 21:17:23
 To   : Dmitry Shkarin                      
 Subj : PPM                                                                          


Hello Dmitry!

07 Ñåí 01, Dmitry Shkarin wrote to Daniil Uspensky:

 DS> [skip]
 DS>     À âñå pàâíî íè÷åãî íåïîíÿòíî.

    Ïîïûòàþñü íà ñêîëüêî ñyìåþ âíÿòíî îáúÿñíèòü íà ïpèìåpå.
    Hà pèñyíêå èçîápàæåí îpèåíòèpîâàííûé ãpàô äëÿ ïpèâåäåííîé ñòpîêè àëôàâèòà è
ç 2-õ ñèìâîëîâ è äëÿ ñàáæà order-3 . Êàæäûé ýëåìåíò (êpîìå ýë-òîâ èç ïåpâîãî pÿ
äà è ïpàâûõ äèàãîíàëåé êàæäîé ÷àñòè ãpàôà) ñîäåpæèò: ñàì ñèìâîë, êîëè÷åñòâî ïîâ
òîpîâ, ññûëêà íà ñëåäyþùèé ýë-ò â pÿäy, ññûëêà íà ñëåäyþùèé pÿä âíèç. Hà pèñyíê
å ïîñòpîåíî íå÷òî âpîäå äåpåâà, íî ýëåìåíòû íå èìåþò àäpåñîâ ñâîèõ äî÷åpíèõ ýëå
ìåíòîâ èç ñîîápàæåíèé ýêîíîìèè ïàìÿòè. Ëåâûé äî÷åpíèé ýë-ò -- ýòî ñèìâîë 0, à ï
pàâûé -- 1. ×åpíûé êpyæîê -- ýòî êpyæîê, ÷åpåç êîòîpûé ìû yæå ïpîøëè (äëÿ íàãëÿ
äíîñòè).
    Hà íèæíåì pèñyíêå pàìêîé ïîêàçàí òåêyùèé "êàäp". Ïîä íîìåpîì "0" -- ñàì "yã
àäûâàåìûé" ñèìâîë. Èòàê, áåpåì ïåpâûé ñëåâà ñèìâîë îò "yãàäûâàåìîãî" -- ¹1 (ñèì
âîë=0) è âûáèpàåì ëåâyþ ÷àñòü, äàëåå ñïyñêàåìñÿ íà ñëåä. ypîâåíü è âûáèpàåì ýë-
ò, ñîîòâ-ùèé ñèìâîëy ¹2 -- ýòî ñèìâîë=1, äàëåå -- åùå íà ypîâåíü âíèç (ypîâåíü 
3) è âûáèpàåì ýë-ò ñ ñèìâîë=0. Â ñàìîì íèæíåì ypîâíå íàõîäÿòñÿ ñàìè ïpåäïîëàãàå
ìûå ñèìâîëû. Äàëåå -- êîäèpyåì ñèìâîë íà îñíîâå ÷àñòîò èç ýë-òîâ â ýòîì pÿäy. Å
ñëè y ýë-òà ñ òåïåpü yæå èçâåñòíûì ñèìâîëîì ¹0, ññûëêà íà ñëåäyþùèé pÿä = NULL,
 òî çàïîìèíàåì ýòîò ýë-ò,"ñäâèãàåì" êàäp íà 1 ñèìâîë âïpàâî; äåëàåì òå æå äåéñò
âèÿ ñ ýòèì êàäpîì; àäpåñ ýë-òà èç òpåòüåãî pÿäà âïèñûâàåòñÿ â çàïîìíåííûé ýë-ò.
 Ò.î., â ñëåäyþùèé pàç, êîãäà âñòpåòèòñÿ òàêàÿ æå ñòpîêà, ìû ñìîæåì yæå ñpàçy ï
åpåñêî÷èòü íà ïpåäïîñëåäíèé ypîâåíü.
    Ñìûñë òàêîãî ïîpÿäêà âûáîpêè ñèìâîëîâ ñîñòîèò â yäîáñòâå ïpè êîäèpîâàíèè ñ 
áîëåå-ìåíåå áîëüøèì order â ñëy÷àå, êîãäà òåêyùèé êàäp åùå íå âñòpå÷àëñÿ èëè èç
âåñòíî òîëüêî íåñêîëüêî ñèìâîëîâ ñëåâà îò yãàäûâàåìîãî... Èëè íåò? Æäy êpèòèêy.

Âîò ñàì pèñyíîê:

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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Alex Goldberg                        2:468/57       12 Sep 01 09:01:26
 To   : Bulat Ziganshin                     
 Subj : Re: DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?                                          


                       Good morning, Bulat!

Monday September 10 2001 21:24, Bulat Ziganshin wrote to Sergei Romancha:

 BZ> ntfs. ïðàâäà, æì¸ò õóæå. íó åù¸ stacker4, íî îí èìõî íè÷åì íå ëó÷øå
 BZ> ds. à íå òû ëè ñàì ñîáèðàëñÿ íàïèñàòü ÷òî-òî òèïà òîãî?? à, åñòü åù¸
 BZ> êàêàÿ-òî ïðîãðàììà, êîòîðàÿ íà ëåòó zip/unzip äåëàåò, íî òîðìîç è
 BZ> ãëþêàëî

Åñëè òû ïpî ZipMagic, òî íå îñîáûé îí è òîpìîç íà íûíåøíèõ ìàøèíàõ. À ãëþêè ïpî
ÿâëÿþòñÿ ïpè ïîïûòêå ñîõpàíÿòü íà åãî äåâàéñàõ ôàéëèêè pàçìåpîì ïîä 100Ìá.

    Good luck !                         Wednesday September 12 2001
    Alex Goldberg.

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 From : Bulat Ziganshin                      2:5093/4.126   12 Sep 01 21:19:35
 To   : Eugene D. Shelwien                  
 Subj : Î ñëîâàðÿõ ðàçìåðîì áîëüøå 256Ì                                              


* Originally in RU.COMPRESS
Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, Eugene!

Monday September 10 2001, Eugene D. Shelwien writes to All:
 ES> Ìåíÿ äàâíî èíòåðåñîâàëî, ïî÷åìó íè â îäíîì êîìïðåññîðå
 ES> äî ñèõ ïîð ìíå íå äîâåëîñü óâèäåòü âîçìîæíîñòè îòâåäåíèÿ
 ES> ïîä ñëîâàðü áîëüøåãî, ÷åì 256M, êîëè÷åñòâà ïàìÿòè.

ïëîõî ñìîòðåë ;)

Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Paul Konev                           2:463/1124.977 13 Sep 01 13:18:10
 To   : Bulat Ziganshin                     
 Subj : DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?                                              


Ïðèâåò Bulat!

10 Sep 01 21:24, Bulat Ziganshin -> Sergei Romancha:

 SR>>    subj? Ãëàâíîå ÷òîáû ïîä Win pàáîòàëî, ïîä äîñ íåîáÿçàòåëüíî.

 BZ> ntfs. ïðàâäà, æì¸ò õóæå. íó åù¸ stacker4, íî îí èìõî íè÷åì íå ëó÷øå ds.
 BZ> à íå òû ëè ñàì ñîáèðàëñÿ íàïèñàòü ÷òî-òî òèïà òîãî?? à, åñòü åù¸
 BZ> êàêàÿ-òî ïðîãðàììà, êîòîðàÿ íà ëåòó zip/unzip äåëàåò, íî òîðìîç è ãëþêàëî

ZipMagic íàçûâàåòñÿ, íî íå ÿâëÿåòñÿ òîðìîçîì è ãëþêàëîì.
Ïîëüçóþñü óæå íå îäèí ãîä. Î÷åíü óäîáíî. Äîâîëåí.

Paul

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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Maxim Smirnov                        2:5020/400     13 Sep 01 23:35:02
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : wanted                                                                       


From: "Maxim Smirnov" <model@iac.spb.ru>

Hi All,

À êàêèå åñòü â ïðèðîäå ñâîáîäíî ðàñïðîñòðàíÿåìûå
äèññåðû, èìåþùèå îòíîøåíèå ê ýõîòàãó? Áåãëûé
ïîèñê ïî âèíòó äîêàçàë íàëè÷èå íèæåïðèâåäåííûõ.
×òî åùå åñòü?
Inferring Sequential Structure
        by Craig G. Nevill-Manning
Lossless Document Image Compression
        by Stuart J. Inglis
Off-Line Data Compression By Textual Substitution
        by Stefano Lonardi
On-Line Stochastic Processes in Data Compression
        by Suzanne Bunton
Structures of String Matching and Data Compression
        by N. Jesper Larsson
The Design and Analysis of Efficient Lossless 
        Data Compression Systems
        by Paul Glor Howard

È åùå âîïðîñ. Âåäåò ëè êòî èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïî îöåíêå
âåðîÿòíîñòåé ïîÿâëåíèÿ ñèìâîëîâ íà îñíîâàíèè íåñìåæíûõ,
ò.å. íå êîíòåêñòà â åãî êëàññè÷åñêîì ïîíèìàíèè?
Åñëè íå èçìåíÿåò ñêëåðîç, òî åäèíñòâåííàÿ èçâåñòíàÿ 
ìíå ñòàòüÿ íàçûâàåòñÿ Lexical Attraction for Text 
Compression. By J.Bach, I.Witten.

Maxim

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 RU.COMPRESS 
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 To   : All                                 
 Subj : News at ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/                                  


  ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/7z230b3.exe
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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Vadim Goncharov                      2:5091/9.17    14 Sep 01 23:21:43
 To   : Bulat Ziganshin                     
 Subj : Re: DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?                                          


Êàê ïîæèâàåòå, Bulat ?

 -=> Êàê-òî pàç ÿ ñëy÷àéíî çàìåòèë, ÷òî â 10 Ñåí 01 21:24, Bulat Ziganshin
 -=> ïèñàë Sergei Romancha íàñ÷åò DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?:

 SR>>   subj? Ãëàâíîå ÷òîáû ïîä Win pàáîòàëî, ïîä äîñ íåîáÿçàòåëüíî.
 BZ> ntfs. ïpàâäà, æì¸ò õyæå.
Ðàçâå??? Çàòî íàäåæíî è yäîáíî, íå òî ÷òî âñÿêèå òàì äpàéâñïåéñû è ò.ä.

 BZ>  íy åù¸ stacker4, íî îí èìõî íè÷åì íå ëy÷øå ds. à íå òû ëè ñàì
 BZ> ñîáèpàëñÿ íàïèñàòü ÷òî-òî òèïà òîãî??
Îé, íàôèã íàäî...

 BZ>  à, åñòü åù¸ êàêàÿ-òî ïpîãpàììà, êîòîpàÿ íà ëåòy zip/unzip äåëàåò, íî
 BZ> òîpìîç è ãëþêàëî
Âîò ýòî áîëåå èíòåpåñíî. Åñòü âñÿêèå ZipFolders & ZipMagic. Ïåpâûé y ìåíÿ ñòîèò
, ãëþêîâ íå çàìå÷åíî. ÂÎò áû äëÿ pàp òàêîå áûëî...

                C yâàæåíèåì, Vadim Goncharov.
... Â ÷yæyþ ñåòü ñî ñâîèì ïpîòîêîëîì íå ëåçü!
--- Çîëîòîáîpîäûé äÅÄ-påäàêòîp, âîçpàñòîì 3.00.Beta5+ ëåò
 * Origin: The Nuclear Lightning Systems (2:5091/9.17)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Dmitry Shkarin                       2:5020/400     15 Sep 01 00:59:52
 To   : Maxim Smirnov                       
 Subj : Re: wanted                                                                   


From: "Dmitry Shkarin" <dmitry.shkarin@mtu-net.ru>

                    Hi, Maxim!
> À êàêèå åñòü â ïðèðîäå ñâîáîäíî ðàñïðîñòðàíÿåìûå
> äèññåðû, èìåþùèå îòíîøåíèå ê ýõîòàãó? Áåãëûé
    Åùå ïðî Ekstrand & Teahan çàáûë.

> È åùå âîïðîñ. Âåäåò ëè êòî èññëåäîâàíèÿ ïî îöåíêå
> âåðîÿòíîñòåé ïîÿâëåíèÿ ñèìâîëîâ íà îñíîâàíèè íåñìåæíûõ,
> ò.å. íå êîíòåêñòà â åãî êëàññè÷åñêîì ïîíèìàíèè?
    Hó åñëè ôîðìàëüíî, òî â image compression êîíòåêñòû ñòðîÿòñÿ èç
ïèêñåëîâ, ñòðî÷íûå ðàññòîÿíèÿ ìåæäó êîòîðûìè âåëèêè.


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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Dmitry Shkarin                       2:5020/400     15 Sep 01 01:16:12
 To   : Dmitry Shkarin                      
 Subj : Re: wanted                                                                   


From: "Dmitry Shkarin" <dmitry.shkarin@mtu-net.ru>

                    Hi, ÿ!
>     Åùå ïðî Ekstrand & Teahan çàáûë.
    À åùå Êàäà÷.


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 RU.COMPRESS 
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 Subj : News at ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/                                  


  ftp://ftp.elf.stuba.sk/pub/pc/pack/cmdzip.zip
AD Command Zip - Simple zipping utility (508,961 bytes)


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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Anton V Zhbankov                     2:5015/160.555 18 Sep 01 20:51:39
 To   : Vadim Goncharov                     
 Subj : DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?                                              



  Greetings, Vadim.

14 Sep 01 22:21, Vadim Goncharov -> Bulat Ziganshin

 BZ>>  à, åñòü åù¸ êàêàÿ-òî ïpîãpàììà, êîòîpàÿ íà ëåòy zip/unzip
 BZ>> äåëàåò, íî òîpìîç è ãëþêàëî
 VG> Âîò ýòî áîëåå èíòåpåñíî. Åñòü âñÿêèå ZipFolders & ZipMagic. Ïåpâûé y
 VG> ìåíÿ ñòîèò, ãëþêîâ íå çàìå÷åíî. ÂÎò áû äëÿ pàp òàêîå áûëî...

 Äëÿ ðàðà òàêîå íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ :(((

 À âîò ZipFolders äëÿ NT - ÕÎ×Ó!!!!

 Ìîæåò êòî çíàåò íå÷òî ïîäîáíîå??? ZipMagic íå ïðåäëàãàòü!!!

Ariokh, _Lord of Chaos_.
_/DMCA - íàãëàÿ ïîïûòêà ïîä÷èíèòü ñâîáîäíûõ ëþäåé êîðïîðàöèÿì./_

...  Ïîìïåÿõ öàðèë òàêîé ðàçâðàò, ÷òî äàæå Âåçóâèé êîí÷èë.
--- [ANTI-DMCA][Pascal][Open source][Ïîëèòåõ][Team Hell][Progressive]
 * Origin: < Yards of Chaos > (2:5015/160.555)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Roman Pshenichny                     2:5025/38.82   19 Sep 01 01:02:43
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : Fastest RangeCoder                                                           


Hi All!

Hóæíî áûñòpî ñæèìàòü áåç ïîòåpü ïîòîê äàííûõ èìåþùèõ ìàëóþ èçáûòî÷íîñòü.
×òî ïîñîâåòóåòå?

ß äóìàþ, ÷òî range coder. Âîò òîëüêî â ïîñëåäíåå âpåìÿ èõ ñòîëüêî pàçâåëîñü, òà
ê ÷òî åñëè êòî çíàåò ñàìóþ áûñòpóþ påàëèçàöèþ -- ïîäåëèòåñü èñõîäíèêàìè èëè url
-àìè.

Ïîñëå ïåpåâîäà â asm -- ïîêàæó â ýõå.


--- Best regards.
 * Origin: Roman Pshenichny was here. (2:5025/38.82)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Êîíñòàíòèí Âàñèí                     2:5020/400     19 Sep 01 22:15:26
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : Åñòü çàäà÷êà...                                                              


From: Êîíñòàíòèí Âàñèí <ringo1999@mailru.com>
Reply-To: Êîíñòàíòèí Âàñèí <ringo1999@mailru.com>

Äîáðîãî âðåìåíè ñóòîê!

Âîò òàêàÿ õèòðàÿ çàäà÷êà. Ïîìîãèòå êòî-íèáóäü.

Åñòü  arj-àðõèâ  â  èìåíè  êîòîðîãî  äàòà  MDD.  Ïðè÷¸ì  ìåñÿö â 16-îì
ôîðìàòå.
Hàäî.
Ðàñïàêîâàòü.  Òàê 3 ôàéëà. Îäèí èç ôàéëîâ ïåðåèìåíîâàòü. Äà òàê ÷òî áû
â  èìåíè  ôàéëà  áûëà äàòà. À ïîòîì îáðàòíî çàïàêîâàòü. Ïðàâäà â ëþáîé
àðõèâ, íî â èìåíè îïÿòü ä.á. òà æå äàòà ÷òî è â íà÷àëüíîì àðõèâå.

×òî ïîñîâåòóåòå?
Âîçìîæíî ëè ñäåëàòü êàêîé-íèáóäü ÁÀÒ-íè÷åê èëè ïðîñòåíüêóþ ïðîãðàììêó?
Ïîìîãèòå!!!
-- 
Best regards,
 Êîíñòàíòèí                   Ïèøèòå: ringo1999@mailru.com



Îòïðàâëåíî ÷åðåç ñåðâåð Talk.Ru - http://www.talk.ru
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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Bulat Ziganshin                      2:5093/4.126   20 Sep 01 23:59:15
 To   : Anton V Zhbankov                    
 Subj : DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?                                              


* Originally in RU.COMPRESS
Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, Anton!

Tuesday September 18 2001, Anton V Zhbankov writes to Vadim Goncharov:
 AZ>  À âîò ZipFolders äëÿ NT - ÕÎ×Ó!!!!

à ÿ äèñê íà 60 ãèã ïîêóïàþ. ñîðîêà íå õâàòàåò, âñ¸ ìóçûêîé äà ôèëüìàìè çàáèòî

Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.2
 * Origin: Çà áåññìåðòèå ïëàòÿò æèçíüþ. Ìîæíî ÷óæîé (2:5093/4.126)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Sergei Bakanov                       2:5051/36.9    21 Sep 01 07:32:00
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : àðèôìåòè÷åñêîå êîäèðîâàíèå                                                   


·  ••      [      Äåíü äîáðûé  , All ?    ]     ••   ·
    All, ó òåáÿ åñòü ïîñëåäíèå äîêè ïî subj äëÿ ìûëà?

·  ••      [ Äà ïðèáóäåò ñ òîáîé ñèëà, äæåäàé All. ]     ••   ·

--- - ---  --   -    ·
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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Anton V Zhbankov                     2:5015/160.555 22 Sep 01 19:14:07
 To   : Bulat Ziganshin                     
 Subj : DriveSpace - åñòü àëüòåpíàòèâû?                                              



  Greetings, Bulat.

20 Sep 01 22:59, Bulat Ziganshin -> Anton V Zhbankov

 AZ>>  À âîò ZipFolders äëÿ NT - ÕÎ×Ó!!!!
 BZ> à ÿ äèñê íà 60 ãèã ïîêóïàþ. ñîðîêà íå õâàòàåò, âñ¸ ìóçûêîé äà
 BZ> ôèëüìàìè çàáèòî

 Äûê ðåæü áîëâàíêè... èëè âîîáùå íà DVD ïåðåõîäè :)

 íó íà êðàéíÿê Raid ;)

Ariokh, _Lord of Chaos_.
_/DMCA - íàãëàÿ ïîïûòêà ïîä÷èíèòü ñâîáîäíûõ ëþäåé êîðïîðàöèÿì./_

... Ðàáîòà íå âîëê, â ëåñ íå óáåæèò, à æàëü!
--- [ANTI-DMCA][Pascal][Open source][Ïîëèòåõ][Team Hell][Progressive]
 * Origin: < Yards of Chaos > (2:5015/160.555)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Daniil Uspensky                      2:5030/1551.7  23 Sep 01 17:42:32
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : Øàëüíàÿ ìûñëü...                                                             


Hello All!

À ÷òî, åñëè â PPM þçàòü èíòåpïîëÿöèîííûå ïîëèíîìû äëÿ "ïpåäñêàçàíèÿ" ñèìâîëîâ?

Daniil

--- GoldED+/386 1.1.4.7
 * Origin: Once Upon A Time In The West ... (2:5030/1551.7)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Alex Baskakov                        2:5025/3.55    23 Sep 01 20:02:38
 To   : All                                 
 Subj : ñòðàííûé zip                                                                 


                How à þ, All?

Åñòü ñòðàííûé zip àðõèâ, íåêîòîðûå ôàéëû èç êîòîðîãî ñòàíäàðòíûì zip'îì íå ðàçâ
îðà÷èâàþòñÿ (bad table âûäàåò).  àðõèâå åñòü ôàéëû _hash*, ÷òî íàâîäèò íà ìûñë
ü î êàêîì-òî êëîíå... ×åì áû åãî ðàçâåðíóòü?


                                                                   Ïð. åù¸, Ë.
--- GoldED/386 3.0.1
 * Origin: Wanna be MCSD? (2:5025/3.55)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Max Vasilyev                         2:5057/33.36   24 Sep 01 19:12:34
 To   : Alex Baskakov                       
 Subj : ñòðàííûé zip                                                                 


Hello Alex!

Replying to a message of Alex Baskakov to All:

 AB> Åñòü ñòðàííûé zip àðõèâ, íåêîòîðûå ôàéëû èç êîòîðîãî ñòàíäàðòíûì zip'îì íå
 AB> ðàçâîðà÷èâàþòñÿ (bad table âûäàåò).  àðõèâå åñòü ôàéëû _hash*, ÷òî
 AB> íàâîäèò íà ìûñëü î êàêîì-òî êëîíå... ×åì áû åãî ðàçâåðíóòü?
âîçìîæíî PkZip 4.0 èëè 4.5 for Win32
www.pkware.com

WBR, Max. *piwamoto!chat.ru*
--- FleetStreet 1.27.3.7
 * Origin: Personal Reality (2:5057/33.36)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Maxim Smirnov                        2:5020/400     25 Sep 01 00:44:21
 To   : Daniil Uspensky                     
 Subj : Øàëüíàÿ ìûñëü...                                                             


From: "Maxim Smirnov" <model@iac.spb.ru>

Sun Sep 23 2001 17:42, Daniil Uspensky wrote to All:

 DU> Hello All!

 DU> À ÷òî, åñëè â PPM þçàòü èíòåpïîëÿöèîííûå ïîëèíîìû äëÿ "ïpåäñêàçàíèÿ"
 DU> ñèìâîëîâ?
Ëàæà â îáùåì ñëó÷àå, åñëè òîëüêî íå ïîâåçåò.
Êðîìå òîãî, äëÿ ïðåäñêàçàíèÿ èíòåðïîëÿöèîííûå ïîëèíîìû
ìîãóò ïðèìåíÿòü ðàçâå ÷òî òîëüêî íåóäàâøèåñÿ ê.ô-ì.í,
íå ðåøèâøèåñÿ íè îäíîé ðåàëüíîé ïðîãíîçíîé çàäà÷è.

Maxim

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 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Dima Kirnocenskij                    2:5020/701.111 25 Sep 01 11:15:29
 To   : Daniil Uspensky                     
 Subj : Re: Øàëüíàÿ ìûñëü...                                                         


Ïðèâåò, Daniil!

23 Sep 01 17:42, Daniil Uspensky wrote to All:

 DU> À ÷òî, åñëè â PPM þçàòü èíòåpïîëÿöèîííûå ïîëèíîìû äëÿ "ïpåäñêàçàíèÿ"
 DU> ñèìâîëîâ?

Ò.å. òû íàäååøüñÿ íà áîëåå èëè ìåíåå "ãëàäêîå" ðàñïðåäåëåíèå ÊÎÄÎÂ ñèìâîëîâ?
À ïî÷åìó?

Âñåãî íàèëy÷øåãî.
Dima Kirnocenskij

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 * Origin: Why not? (FIDO 2:5020/701.111)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Bulat Ziganshin                      2:5093/4.126   26 Sep 01 10:37:49
 To   : Max Vasilyev                        
 Subj : ñòðàííûé zip                                                                 


* Originally in RU.COMPRESS
Ïðèÿòíîãî òåáå äíÿ è íåçàáûâàåìîé íî÷è, Max!

Monday September 24 2001, Max Vasilyev writes to Alex Baskakov:
 AB>> Åñòü ñòðàííûé zip àðõèâ, íåêîòîðûå ôàéëû èç êîòîðîãî ñòàíäàðòíûì
 AB>> zip'îì íå ðàçâîðà÷èâàþòñÿ (bad table âûäàåò).  àðõèâå åñòü ôàéëû
 AB>> _hash*, ÷òî íàâîäèò íà ìûñëü î êàêîì-òî êëîíå... ×åì áû åãî
 AB>> ðàçâåðíóòü?
 MV> âîçìîæíî PkZip 4.0 èëè 4.5 for Win32
 MV> www.pkware.com

âðÿä ëè. defalte64 - îòäåëüíûé ìåòîä ñæàòèÿ ñî ñâîèì íîìåðîì

Bulat, mailto:bulatzATfort.tatarstan.ru, ICQ 15872722

... Èíîãäà äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû èçìåíèòü ñâîå âîñïðèÿòèå ìèðà,
... ëþäè ïûòàþòñÿ èçìåíèòü ñàì ìèð
--- GoldED+/W32 1.1.2
 * Origin: Çà áåññìåðòèå ïëàòÿò æèçíüþ. Ìîæíî ÷óæîé (2:5093/4.126)


 RU.COMPRESS 
 From : Daniil Uspensky                      2:5030/1551.7  26 Sep 01 17:12:29
 To   : Maxim Smirnov                       
 Subj : Øàëüíàÿ ìûñëü...                                                             


Hello Maxim!

25 Ñåí 01, Maxim Smirnov wrote to Daniil Uspensky:

 DU>> À ÷òî, åñëè â PPM þçàòü èíòåpïîëÿöèîííûå ïîëèíîìû äëÿ
 DU>> "ïpåäñêàçàíèÿ" ñèìâîëîâ?
 MS> Ëàæà â îáùåì ñëy÷àå, åñëè òîëüêî íå ïîâåçåò.
 MS> Êpîìå òîãî, äëÿ ïpåäñêàçàíèÿ èíòåpïîëÿöèîííûå ïîëèíîìû
 MS> ìîãyò ïpèìåíÿòü pàçâå ÷òî òîëüêî íåyäàâøèåñÿ ê.ô-ì.í,
 MS> íå påøèâøèåñÿ íè îäíîé påàëüíîé ïpîãíîçíîé çàäà÷è.

ß òîæå ê òàêîìy âûâîäy ïpèøåë. Ê òîìy æå èõ èñïîëüçîâàòü íå yäîáíî, ò.ê. âíå âç
ÿòîãî ïpîìåæyòêà îíè âåäyò ñåáÿ ñêâåpíî...

Daniil

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From: "Andrew Ezhguroff" <eandr@com2com.ru>

Ïðèâåò! "Alex Baskakov" <Alex.Baskakov@p55.f3.n5025.z2.fidonet.org>
ñîîáùèë(à) íàì:

> Åñòü ñòðàííûé zip àðõèâ, íåêîòîðûå ôàéëû èç êîòîðîãî ñòàíäàðòíûì zip'îì íå
> ðàçâîðà÷èâàþòñÿ (bad table âûäàåò).  àðõèâå åñòü ôàéëû _hash*, ÷òî
íàâîäèò íà
> ìûñëü î êàêîì-òî êëîíå... ×åì áû åãî ðàçâåðíóòü?

Ñêîðåå âñåãî ýòî âîîáùå íå ZIP, à êàêîé-òî ïîñòîðîííèé ôîðìàò (â èíòåðíåòå
ëþáÿò ëþáîìó àðõèâó äàâàòü ðàñøèðåíèå ZIP). Ïîïðîáóé ïîñìîòðåòü åãî
ïðîãðàììîé, êîòîðàÿ íåñêîëüêî ôîðìàòîâ ïîíèìàåò: WinRar 2.8 - 9 ôîðìàòîâ,
DosNavigator (íå ðàñïàêóåøü, íî õîòÿ áû ïîéìåøü, êàêîé àðõèâàòîð
òðåáóåòñÿ) - 25 ôîðìàòîâ.

Ñ óâàæåíèåì, Àíäðåé.


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