Transcript
Transcript of an online discussion carried by America Online and
led from the National Demonstration Laboratory at the Library of
Congress by James Billington, Librarian of Congress, and Rudolf
Pikhoia, Russian Archivist. The event took place June 18, 1992.
- AFL Bobloo :
- Sovarc, I'm curious as to how the Russian people
feel about this exhibit?
- Sovarc :
- We have to say that not only Americans have not seen
these documents, but Russians have never seen these. We have
been preparing a series of useful exhibits for high school and
college students.
- AFL Bobloo :
- So we are all seeing these things for the first
time.
- TipToe :
- I'm asking this on behalf of Mick Anderson (7th
grade): Is this a 2-way exchange of information?
- TipToe :
- Are we making American documents available to
Russian people through schools or anything?
- AFC SteveB :
- [Good question!]
- Sovarc :
- Probably we should say a big thank you to you for
this wonderful question. Right now we are going to receive a
large set of documents, microfilms, etc. from the Hoover
Institute on Russian History.
- Sovarc :
- We have preliminarily agreed to have the Smolensk
Archives (captured by Germans) returned to Russia. These
documents will become part of the school materials and texts for
all Russian students of all ages.
- Sovarc :
- Billington: I should add that when I accompanied
Pres. Reagan during the summit, he asked what would be
appropriate to give to Russian Universities. I found out that no
students could get primary-source documents, so have given them
the complete microfilm documents of Jefferson, Washington and
Lincoln. This is the first time university students had primary
documents to work on. I would hope that as our exchange would
develop we could share such things in schools and universities
and archives.
- TipToe :
- (Excellent!!!!!!!) ga :)
- VGEngineer :
- What is the current position of the CIS concerning
the Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty?
- Sovarc :
- The position of the CIS on nuclear disarmament was
agreed to by all the states, members of the CIS and the position
was confirmed at the mtg of heads of state in Minsk and
Tashkent--meetings held very recently.
- BCS Skip :
- I ya tozhe :)
- BCS Skip :
- (me too)
- Jennifer05 :
- Sovarc, one of our questions was: How were the
archives made available to the US?
- Sovarc :
- The materials were provided to the Library of
Congress, the largest not only in the US but the largest
repository in the world. The gov't of Russia believes it useful
to familiarize Americans after a period of seventy years ...and
the L of C is the best way of getting this information to the
Americans.
- Jennifer05 :
- Question: Which documents in the exhibit are likely
to cause historians to re-evaluate key aspects of Soviet history?
- Sovarc :
- I think that all of the documents will be cause for
a reevaluation of Soviet history. Two hours ago there was a
seminar held at the L of C in which some of the leading US
historians were present and they share this point of view.
- Sovarc :
- Billington: I would add that the Lenin documents
that show far more of the distinctive elements of totalitarianism
present from the beginning of the Soviet experience are of
particular importance. Also, more recent documents showing, for
instance, that the preparations for Afghanistan were well
developed earlier than previously thought.
- Sovarc :
- But the biggest new contribution of all may be to
show the human factor at work, both the brilliance of repression
and the strength and depth of opposition that was there all
along.
- UICLibrary :
- how many CIS citizens will have access to the
archives? and how?
- RebeccaH :
- Will these documents be widely available inside the
CIS?
- Sovarc :
- First of all, we will provide access, we will make
access to archives a lot easier... we are declassifying a large
number of these documents, and Russian specialists along with L
of C are planning to publish series of books based on these
documents and these books will be available in the CIS and in the
US.
- Teacherjh :
- How might the Soviet people react =differently= to
these documents as compared to the American people?
- Sovarc:
- For the American people, the documents are a matter
of interest. For the peoples for the Soviet Union, this is their
destiny, this is their life.
- Jennifer05 :
- Question: Are there any documents that have serious
implications for Russian-US relations? Which ones?
- Sovarc :
- US-Russian relations existed in 1917 and are
resuming in 1992. For the history of US Soviet relations, which
have already become a thing of the past, there will be exposed
many, many more new pages which will explain why the relations
between our two countries were the way they were.
- Jennifer05 :
- Question:Will the particular revelations about Lenin
from his personal memos accelerate his debunking?
- Sovarc :
- There is a question in the question. History does
not deal with debunking or glorifying. The purpose of history is
to show how things really were. The real Lenin turns out to be a
lot closer to the real Stalin than people thought in the past.
- Jennifer05 :
- Question:Do you feel the exhibit's revelations will
be a net plus or minus for the cause of increased US assistance
to Russia?
- Sovarc :
- We, the organizers of this exhibit, the Russian
gov't Committee on Archives and the L of C are convinced that
this will help the cause of providing assistance because you help
those whom you trust. This exhibit is precisely an indication of
the trust that has developed between the US and Russia.
- Jennifer05 :
- Question:Do any documents in the archives pave the
way for increased exchange of more scientific/artistic ideas
between the US-Russia?
- Sovarc :
- Dr. Billington: No particular document paves such a
way. The very fact of sharing all of this material creates the
first and most fundamental precondition for true intellectual and
cultural exchange, which is the open and full sharing of
information with other writers and creators.
- Sovarc :
- Moreover, by exposing the negative effects of
repressing creative and spiritual life, you create a strengthened
belief in the importance of those aspects of human life. So, this
to me is a very hopeful swallow of a new spring of creative
interaction for America (speaking selfishly) with a great culture
with which we have only partial contact these recent years.
- Jennifer05 :
- Question: Does the exhibit have any revelations
impacting nationalities issues in Russia, particularly the ethnic
groups?
- Sovarc :
- Probably, these documents might be the information
on the repression carried out against the Crimea and Tartars, the
ethnic Germans, carried out in the '30's and '40's. We are
convinced that the truth about these events has to be told as a
necessary condition for normalizing the question of nationality.
- Sovarc :
- Dr. Pikhoia would like to know where the questioners
are from. Please identify your city & state also.
- Rich OO :
- Newport Beach California
- GerryR52 :
- St.Paul, Minnesota...
- Gazers :
- Little Falls, New Jersey
- Teacherjh :
- Ridgefield, Ct PC
- Kate :
- New Milford, CT
- AFC SteveB :
- Northboro, Massachusetts.
- Prof Terry :
- From Huntsville, Alabama
- TipToe :
- San Francisco, CA with St.
James Elementary School grades 6-8 & SF State University Ed tech
team:)
- Boodlums :
- New York, NY
- Dilvish :
- Seattle, Washington
- Handler1 :
- Cleveland, Ohio
- AFL SandyB :
- Kansas City, Missouri
- NealK :
- Los Angeles, CA
- Grashopper :
- Brewer, Maine! :)
- Teacher BY :
- Philadelphia,
- PA AFA Andy :
- Montevallo, Alabama
- Susan100 :
- San Diego, California BCS
- Skip :
- Currently in Little Rock Arkansas TOS
- Advisor :
- Vienna, Va. JimIngram : Washington, DC
- AFL RRJoe :
- Nome, Alaska very close to Russia
- John628556 :
- Cheshire, Connecticut
- Anaise :
- Silicon Valley, CA
- AFA Jay :
- NW New Jersey :)
- GenericUC :
- Chico California
- RebeccaH :
- Troy State University, Troy, Alabama
- Prf CL :
- Davis, California
- AFC Andrew :
- Bay City, Michigan
- Rita Marie :
- Bellaire, Ohio
- Teacherdb1 :
- San Mateo,California
- UICLibrary :
- University of Illinois at Chicago,Chicago, Illinois
- Sovarc :
- I want to thank all of you for coming, for bearing
with us under unbelievably trying, literally unprecedented
circumstances--
- Jennifer05 :
- Give them our thanks for being here today, Sovarc!
- Rich OO :
- ::applause:: I am glad I was present where history
is being made! Great job! :D (<--AOL note: in "online talk" :D
means the person is giving you a big smile--turn your head
sideways to see)
- Anaise :
- hip hip hooray!!!
- AFC Andrew :
- ::applause!:::::
- TipToe :
- I just want to say I think we all feel as though
we've been a part of history today and look forward to using the
library online.. Bravo AOL!!!!!!!
- AFC RRJoe :
- Wows and great job Sovarc, Ochen Priatna!
- Teacherdb1 :
- Hoping this exhibit is a precedent for a reciprocal
exchange of science info!
Gazers : +Yahooo children of St James Elementary School!!!
- TipToe :
- (All my kids are giving you guys a BIG cheer!!!)
- GenericUC :
- Standing O (AOL note -- this means standing
ovation)
- BCS Skip :
- This was a great conference, and congrats for
pulling it back together!
- Teacherjh :
- ()()()()()
- GerryR52 :
- :::::LOUD applause:::: :) GREAT job in VERY
difficult circumstances, everyone! :)
- Susan100 :
- {{{{{{{{{{ Peoples of the World }}}}}}}}}}}}
- Handler1 :
- Great job! :)
- Gazers :
- sensational...and thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Gazers :
- It only takes a spark to get a fire going :):):)
- Boodlums :
- ()()()()()()() :::applause:::
- AFC SteveB :
- *Cheer*
- RebeccaH :
- Great, when will the next conference be held?
- Teacher BY :
- I enjoyed this discussion very much. Very
interesting. :) Thanks! BCS
- Skip :
- Great job well done, all!