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Callicles
You are sarcastic, Socrates.
Socrates
No, by Zethus, Callicles, whom you made use of just now1 for aiming a good deal of sarcasm at me: but come, tell us whom you mean by the better.
Callicles
I mean the more excellent.
Socrates
So you see, you are uttering mere words yourself, and explaining nothing. Will you not tell us whether by the better and superior you mean the wiser, or some other sort?
Callicles
Why, to be sure, I mean those, and very much so.