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and to be able to make anyone else a rhetorician, tell me with what particular thing rhetoric is concerned: as, for example, weaving is concerned with the manufacture of clothes, is it not?
Gorgias
Yes.
Socrates
And music, likewise, with the making of tunes?
Gorgias
Yes.
Socrates
Upon my word, Gorgias, I do admire your answers! You make them as brief as they well can be.
Gorgias
Yes, Socrates, I consider myself a very fair hand at that.
Socrates
You are right there. Come now, answer me in the same way about rhetoric: with what particular thing is its skill concerned?
Gorgias
With speech.