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FWIW... (5.00 / 1) (#76)
by ScottW714 on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 09:38:47 AM EST
...I am X Gener and I am 45.

My GF put it to me the other day, "I simply don't like Hillary Clinton".  I agree.  I can't quantify it and I don't think others can either.  She is excellent on paper, but when I see her on the TV, I cringe at the prospect of having her as President for 8 years for no other reason that i don't like her.

I do think it's funny to read people who like/dislike a candidate try to explain why others feel differently.  They tend to connect with people who feel the same way, but rarely manage to accurately explain why.

Has it never occurred HS that there are a lot of places people work where such non-sense doesn't exist ?  Or that some people, not destined for greatness, don't really put a priority on a glass ceilings that they can't or don't want to come anywhere near.  Maybe people who have lost a lot of wealth because of the WS and the housing collapse have different priorities than sexism that they have never experienced.  Or the zillion other reasons people pick a candidate that aren't related to gender.


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I would also offer that ... (5.00 / 4) (#85)
by Donald from Hawaii on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 06:06:17 PM EST
... a quarter century's worth of near-daily demonization of the Clintons by the Republican Party has likely had a deleterious effect upon some people's public and personal perceptions of them. A steady and force-fed diet of unsubstantiated innuendo and hearsay can eventually corrode even the most independent of personal judgments.

Aloha.

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Bingo (5.00 / 2) (#87)
by jbindc on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 06:23:15 PM EST
It is amazing the tripe I read and hear from supposed liberals who parrot Republican talking pounts. "Untrustworthy" and "unlikeable" cime to mind.

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If you don't like someone (5.00 / 2) (#93)
by ruffian on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 08:07:19 PM EST
 Don't like them. At least you are not saying it is because of some deep,dark flaw on her part. Are you?

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well.. (none / 0) (#94)
by linea on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 08:28:43 PM EST
i think maybe he is simply unable to articulste his FEELING why he doesnt like her.  that may well be a flaw on hillary's part.

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Well no (5.00 / 3) (#95)
by jbindc on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 08:42:55 PM EST
It isn't Hillary's responsibility to help him articulate how he FEELS about her.  That's about him.  No one can change how someone feels about someone else  - you can only change yourself.

He doesn't like her.  I don't think we need to psychoanalyze him or put a burden on HRC that isn't hers.  She can put out plans and a vision - if he isn't in a frame of mind to accept that, then she could stand on her head and spit nickels,  and it wouldn't change his mind.

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Nonsense (5.00 / 2) (#96)
by CaptHowdy on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 09:01:22 PM EST
It her fault if he doesn't like her.

It's her fault if he doesn't trust her.

Don't you watch tv?

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why is that nonsense? (none / 0) (#100)
by linea on Wed Mar 09, 2016 at 10:15:26 PM EST
i dont understand the TV reference. what if you FEEL somebody doesnt have your best interest at heart or FEEL they are insincere? why are feelings bad?

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Feelings aren't bad (5.00 / 2) (#104)
by jbindc on Thu Mar 10, 2016 at 05:06:32 AM EST
And if they are the reason Scott doesn't want to vote for HRC, so be it.

But it isn't on HRC to make you FEEL better.  She's running for president, not as a therapist. She can tell you her vision and tell you her plans, but only you can choose how you react to it.  You can believe hyoe and spin and talking points, or you can do your own research and make up your own mind.  She isn't going to hold your hand and stroke your hair.

I FEEL a lot of things about a lot of politicians - those FEELINGS may change from day to day. But in the end, this campaign is a job interview, plain and simple. Personally, I will be voting for someone who I think can best do the job based on things like proposals and experience. I'm not voting on who will be my new best friend.  

But if you want to vote based on FEELINGS, then that's certainly your right, but then you stand a very good chance that your FEELINGS are going to be hurt, and often.

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Maybe why a slogan like (none / 0) (#105)
by ruffian on Thu Mar 10, 2016 at 06:10:12 AM EST
"Feel the Bern" is more of a turnoff for a lot of us.

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Did you see (none / 0) (#108)
by CaptHowdy on Thu Mar 10, 2016 at 08:34:20 AM EST
The 10 minute teaser of the new season of The Americans that starts next week?

Speaking of TV.

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