| three_jeeps <jjhudak@gmail.com>: Jul 30 05:09PM -0700 Would be nice if the OP checked in to resolve some of the questions ppl had or comment on others ppls solution for his own situation |
| Incubus <u9536612@gmail.com>: Jul 31 03:26AM > All the people streaming videos today at higher resolutions would disagree. > You only need a few mbps, I regularly connect and see speeds an order of > magnitude higher on wifi. The camera I have is this one, which costs about $110 each. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08LKL4TR6 Since that's over the OP's budget, this one one is cheaper. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BGS833VR/ It has a 3x zoom lens, but a lower resolution camera (4k is still pretty darn good for basic security needs). Either one would typically work in normal day/night security norms. If that's too much money for the OP, this should work https://www.sannce.com/products/c500-poe-ip-camera (but I have no experience with it). It is only 5 megapixels (2592 by 1994 pixels) but that is still better than high-definition television. They have free returns if it doesn't work out for the OP. I would suggest a 4mm lens instead of the wide angle (2.8 mm) lens. This will go a further distance which is often needed in such cameras. And the bullet form will probably be better than the turret form. The OP can put in a microSD card and it uses a POE & CAT5 cabling. The OP will likely want to connect it directly to his home router. It will probably involve drilling a hole in the wall to get outside. Does anyone else have experience with these security camera setups? |
| Klay Anderson <mailserver.cctv@gmail.com>: Jul 30 10:41AM -0700 On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 7:34:27 AM UTC-6, ABLE1 wrote: > >> sensor head powers the lights on until I happen to notice and flip the > >> switch off for about 5 - 8 seconds and then all returns to normal, > >> otherwise the lights stay on until the Sun comes up. There are quite a few off-shore assembled circuits that will do what you want but will not fit in the space. Additionally, they typically need a small amount of DC to work the circuitry. There are several I've used and they work fine. Since you indicated an additional waterproof box is not desired, I suggest a box extender and possibly one of those cards. No matter what you do it's gonna get crowded in there. Oh, BTW, there are some programmable DIN rail mounting devices as well for mounting closer to the breaker box. Yet another idea is to add Z-Wave (Smartthings) to your home to automate this and other devices in your home. Replace that wall switch with a z-wave and you can at least turn it off and on remotely. There may be a way to add a turn-on delay as well depending on the switch. |
| ABLE1 <somebody@nowhere.com>: Jul 30 02:05PM -0400 On 7/30/2023 1:41 PM, Klay Anderson wrote: >>>> switch off for about 5 - 8 seconds and then all returns to normal, >>>> otherwise the lights stay on until the Sun comes up. > There are quite a few off-shore assembled circuits that will do what you want but will not fit in the space. Additionally, they typically need a small amount of DC to work the circuitry. There are several I've used and they work fine. Since you indicated an additional waterproof box is not desired, I suggest a box extender and possibly one of those cards. No matter what you do it's gonna get crowded in there. Oh, BTW, there are some programmable DIN rail mounting devices as well for mounting closer to the breaker box. Yet another idea is to add Z-Wave (Smartthings) to your home to automate this and other devices in your home. Replace that wall switch with a z-wave and you can at least turn it off and on remotely. There may be a way to add a turn-on delay as well depending on the switch. Hi Klay, Thanks for the extra input. I have found from another group that a Omron H3Y-2 would do the job. Already ordered one at a very good price. Once I have in my hands I will determine a best fit for the existing box. It it is a challenge I will swap it out for something else that will work. With the socket for the Relay Module it is only about 3.4" high and it might fit laying it on it's side. If not a 4" square PVC box should work. Time will Tell!! Les |
| ehsjr <ehsjr@verizon.net>: Jul 30 05:41PM -0400 On 7/30/2023 2:05 PM, ABLE1 wrote: > laying it on it's side. If not a 4" square PVC box should work. > Time will Tell!! > Les Your break even point (cost of electricity saved vs cost of Omron) comes out to about 4 years using rough estimates: 12 outages per year; 6 hours 27 minutes per outage; 15.5 W LED floodlight; $0.23 KWH average. You can come to a more accurate number using the specs that apply to you instead of the averages I used. That assumes your cost is $10.00. It won't be, using the Omron. You'll need to buy the proper fittings/rails/enclosures/ wire etc. You'll need to install it in a dry location - ie indoors - which can add construction costs. If you jury rig the thing it will likely be unsafe, and definitly be unsafe as far as the NEC is concerned. The best solution - if it exists - is to buy a floodlight that is programmable the way you want it. What you (and I) have is designed to be programmable via an on/off switch to do exactly what you describe: a real brief power interruption turns the light on until either the sun comes up or you turn off the switch; an extended (several seconds) power interruption enables the light to respond to motion. You can find the description of that buried somewhere in the documentation that applies to your light. The REAL question is what is it worth to you to do about it? I understand the attraction of looking for a "gizmo" to modify what you've got. It can be hard to defeat that attraction. Cold hard reality can help. Run the numbers for your floodlight in your location. Think really hard about whether making things unsafe - or potentially unsafe - is worth it. Think about how much time and effort you have to put into it. There does come a point where it is no longer fun. Ed |
| three_jeeps <jjhudak@gmail.com>: Jul 30 05:16PM -0700 On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:21:47 AM UTC-4, ABLE1 wrote: > Maybe some small Electronic Circuit thingie that would fix the problem. > Thanks for any hints. > Les This should work: https://www.supplyhouse.com/ICM-Controls-ICM203B-ICM203-Delay-on-Break-Timer-03-10-Minute-Knob-Adjust-Delay?utm_source=google_ad&utm_medium=shopping_neutral&utm_campaign=Shopping_Neutral_New_users&gclid=CjwKCAjwlJimBhAsEiwA1hrp5iwaXx2qiYpvi7f-no2JczNmZznzwvodL86iaQE2bqBrwaPbXWZYDhoCdVMQAvD_BwE |
| three_jeeps <jjhudak@gmail.com>: Jul 30 05:19PM -0700 On Sunday, July 30, 2023 at 5:41:31 PM UTC-4, ehsjr wrote: > On 7/30/2023 2:05 PM, ABLE1 wrote: snip > much time and effort you have to put into it. There does come > a point where it is no longer fun. > Ed THis may be the best solution but one will be hard pressed to find an outdoor light that is programmable in the way he wants it. Searching for the perverbial needle in a haystack. If there are any. |
| ABLE1 <somebody@nowhere.com>: Jul 30 08:55PM -0400 On 7/30/2023 5:41 PM, ehsjr wrote: > much time and effort you have to put into it. There does come > a point where it is no longer fun. > Ed Hi Ed, I totally understand your thinking. Being a Electrical Contractor for far too many years and now I that I have sold the business and basically QUIT!! I now have every day as Saturday and this is just going to be FUN!! And at my age of in excess of the national average of males. My cost on the Omron and parts will be about $25 and any needed wire and fitting is already in my old stock. The biggest bonus will be that if this all works as planned will be not lighting up the neighborhood all night long. :-) Especially if I am on a overnight road trip and wouldn't know it happened until I got home and was informed by others of the issue. To me it makes more sense taking on the challenge this way rather than searching for a Motion Head that will not do it or has the ability to program out the ability or some new fancy AI BlueTooth thingie that will do it my way. I see that as wasting my time and it would more than likely cost a lot more. Again Time will Tell!! Les |
| ABLE1 <somebody@nowhere.com>: Jul 30 09:16PM -0400 On 7/30/2023 8:16 PM, three_jeeps wrote: >> Les > This should work: > https://www.supplyhouse.com/ICM-Controls-ICM203B-ICM203-Delay-on-Break-Timer-03-10-Minute-Knob-Adjust-Delay?utm_source=google_ad&utm_medium=shopping_neutral&utm_campaign=Shopping_Neutral_New_users&gclid=CjwKCAjwlJimBhAsEiwA1hrp5iwaXx2qiYpvi7f-no2JczNmZznzwvodL86iaQE2bqBrwaPbXWZYDhoCdVMQAvD_BwE Hi three_jeeps, DRAT!! Yes that would but............... the Omron is already on the way. For convenience and size that would do the job!! Another day!! Thanks for the insight, just a bit late. ;-( Les |
| micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com>: Jul 30 06:11PM -0400 In alt.home.repair, on Thu, 27 Jul 2023 00:39:03 +0100, Brian Gregory >A real radio doesn't connect to a hotspot. It receives radio signals. >So what are you talking about? >Hotspot usually refers to a Wi-Fi hotspot. Yes, I meant bluetooth. >Perhaps the "real" radio is an internet radio? No, the original car radio. >from the phone to the "real" radio which is acting as a Bluetooth speaker? >In that case the app in the phone may stop or pause when the "real" >radio disconnects, or it may not. Well, after Jim's answer, I watched the app, and the app stops playing in less than 2 seconds. When I have the radio go back to pplaying, if the app restarts playing -- sometimes it doesn't -- it takes less than 2 seconds >> to improve its image, after the murder of Adnan Khashoggi and >> allegations of war crimes in Yemen, and they seem to be starting with >> Aramco. And Aramco itself is also responsible for 2 oil boycotts of the USA and for raising prices for political reasons. I understand that they have only so much oil and eventually they will be like a 50-year old football player, who should have made as much money as he could when he was younger, but it's the political reasons I object to. And I'm sure they have not stopped, despite their feel-good radio commercials. >Adnan Khashoggi is, as far as I know fine. Perhaps you mean his nephew >Jamal? Yes, I'm sure I do. I didn't notice they had the same last name. >> volume so I don't hear it. The app certainly doesn't know ablut that, >> and it seems to work, or must it be my imagination? >What radio station are you listening to using Tunein Radio? CNN and MSNBC mostly. >As far as I know Tunein don't add their own commercials, except maybe at I'm sure they do. >the beginning immediately after you choose and start playing a radio >station, though it's difficult to tell, some of the stations do that too. They do play an ad at the beginming, but also in middle. Sometimes tthey seem to go longer, but on those two stations every 10 or 12 minutes and since they play the very same ads on each, for Saudi Aramco, for some brand of mayonaisse, for WGU online college, etc. I'm sure Tunein is providing themn. They may play many fewer when it's C-span radio or an NPR station, because I suppose they get those stations for free or almost for free. compared to commercial raadio. |
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