Josh Denslow is the author of Not Everyone Is Special (7.13 Books), Super Normal (Stillhouse Press), and the upcoming collection Magic Can't Save Us (UNO Press). His most recent short stories have appeared in Electric Literature's The Commuter, The Rumpus, and Okay Donkey, among others. He is the Email Marketing Manager for Bookshop.org, and he has read and edited for SmokeLong Quarterly for over a decade. He currently lives in Barcelona.
1 - How did your first book change your life? How does your most recent work compare to your previous? How does it feel different?
My first collection was plucked from the slush pile at 7.13 Books, and it changed my life for sure. Because after years of trying, it showed me that it was actually possible to publish a book. So I continued writing them. In that first collection you can see the formation of how I employ humor in my writing, and nothing sounds less funny than using the words “employ humor.”
2 - How did you come to short stories first, as opposed to, say, poetry or non-fiction?
I came to fiction in general first because that’s all I knew growing up. There were tons of novels in our house, and I read them all. I didn’t come to short stories until much later when I started writing my own stuff and was excited to learn I didn’t have to dive directly into a novel! For me, they were like novels with training wheels. But of course, short stories became much more profound for me later.
3 - How long does it take to start any particular writing project? Does your writing initially come quickly, or is it a slow process? Do first drafts appear looking close to their final shape, or does your work come out of copious notes?
Starting a short story can be the hardest part because I will rewrite the first paragraph dozens of times until I find some magic alchemy that gives me the tone of that particular piece. Then it tends to flow much faster after that, though I do rewrite quite a bit as I go.
Everything is about flow for me so I’m constantly rereading, especially that first crucial paragraph, to keep me on track. Tweaking is happening throughout so by the time I get to the end, it’s pretty close to what the final will be.
That’s for short stories.
For novels I do something similar, but the difference is that when I finish the first draft, I basically start over and write it again with what I learned in the first pass through. My second published book was a novel, and I wrote it from scratch four times until I got to the version that Stillhouse Press published.
4 - Where does a work of fiction usually begin for you? Are you an author of short pieces that end up combining into a larger project, or are you working on a "book" from the very beginning?
For my newest collection, MAGIC CAN’T SAVE US, I purposely wrote each of the stories with the idea that they would form what I was calling a “thematically” linked collection. Every story features a couple whose relationship is falling apart in some way, and then a magical creature comes along and makes things worse. It was a really exciting way to work, and I would do it again! In fact, I already have some ideas for a “science-based” collection of stories.
5 - Are public readings part of or counter to your creative process? Are you the sort of writer who enjoys doing readings?
I don’t enjoy doing readings. I don’t necessarily enjoy going to readings either. But I’m very supportive, and I can disregard my own personal enjoyment as long as the reading is not hours long. Then, as it turns out, I had other plans that night.
6 - Do you have any theoretical concerns behind your writing? What kinds of questions are you trying to answer with your work? What do you even think the current questions are?
No matter how fantastical things become, I’m always in search of ways to make the characters more human. More real. More relatable. And I want to carve out a bigger slice then just my limited worldview. The questions I want to answer are the questions that plague human beings no matter the background. I’m looking for that ooey gooey center core. And a lot of the time, those questions are the ones we ask ourselves regarding our place in the world and how we can do better on an individual level. To be a better mother or father. A better daughter or son. A better friend. A better citizen. Better.
But I typically make things pretty difficult for my characters. Maybe now is a good time to apologize to them!
7 – What do you see the current role of the writer being in larger culture? Do they even have one? What do you think the role of the writer should be?
This is tough because I don’t think writers are necessarily obligated to do anything other than write. But then on the flipside of that, I think as humans we have an obligation to learn more about the world. To be curious about life outside our circle. And one way to do that is to read. And if all the writers are tasked with this when they write, and the readers are looking for this when they read, then it’s a pretty amazing circle where the writer helps the reader build empathy.
8 - Do you find the process of working with an outside editor difficult or essential (or both)?
I think having an outside editor is a gift and should be cherished. In all my publishing experiences (MAGIC CAN’T SAVE US is my third book), the end product is infinitely better because of the time spent with my editors. It’s the best way to see where you’re falling short. Where you can dive deeper. Where you can find hidden treasures. And I haven’t only edited my work. Some of the notes I’ve received have given me the tools to edit myself. To become an actual better person and a better writer going into the next project. It’s amazing.
9 - What is the best piece of advice you've heard (not necessarily given to you directly)?
I think if I paid attention to advice I would not have ended up where I am now, and that would be an epic tragedy.
10 - How easy has it been for you to move between genres (poetry to music to film)? What do you see as the appeal?
Music takes up a lot of real estate in my mind. I’m obsessed with finding and listening to new music. I also have been playing the drums for decades now (!!!) and had a bit of local success with the band Borrisokane which I started with my wife and her brother. I think my love of music is what gives me that obsession with “flow” which I literally can’t define but I spend most of my time trying to capture in everything I write.
I also have a degree in film from Columbia College Chicago, and I spent ten years in LA working on film sets and writing and directing my own short films. I hear a lot that my stories have a filmic quality, but I have no idea what I’m doing to give that impression, other than I just steeped myself in film and now it’s coming out in my dialogue. On a side note, whenever anyone says that about my work, I take it as the highest compliment even if it wasn’t intended as one.
11 - What kind of writing routine do you tend to keep, or do you even have one? How does a typical day (for you) begin?
I have no writing routine. What I have instead is a full-time job as the email marketing manager for Bookshop.org as well as three children and an incredible wife and we all live an incredible life that I don’t want to miss. I just write when I can! Luckily for me, I have no shortage of ideas and things slowly find their way out into the world.
12 - When your writing gets stalled, where do you turn or return for (for lack of a better word) inspiration?
Reading. Always reading.
13 - What fragrance reminds you of home?
A cake in the oven.
14 - David W. McFadden once said that books come from books, but are there any other forms that influence your work, whether nature, music, science or visual art?
I’m incredibly influenced by music and film, but as I said, it’s an immersion in those forms and then that manifests itself naturally in my work.
15 - What other writers or writings are important for your work, or simply your life outside of your work?
My life experiences influence my writing the most. But, of course, reading is why I love writing. Here is a smattering of writers who have been important to me in one way or another over the course of my life to now: Ellen Raskin, Kazuo Ishiguro, George Saunders, Ursula K. LeGuin, Fernanda Melchor, Olga Tokarczuk, Margaret Atwood, Kelly Link, Charles Yu, Marlon James, Isaac Asimov, David Foster Wallace, David Mitchell, and Yōko Ogawa.
16 - What would you like to do that you haven't yet done?
I would like to direct a feature length film and play drums in a band that goes on a world tour.
17 - If you could pick any other occupation to attempt, what would it be? Or, alternately, what do you think you would have ended up doing had you not been a writer?
I would have loved to be a professional drummer doing session work and playing shows every week.
18 - What made you write, as opposed to doing something else?
If I don’t write, I feel like something massive is missing in my life. And that feeling can loom heavy over everything. So I write to keep the beast away! Writing make me feel like me.
19 - What was the last great book you read? What was the last great film?
The last great book I read was It Lasts Forever and Then It’s Over by Anne de Marcken. One of my favorite movies lately was that Dungeons and Dragons one with Chris Pine. My wife and I saw it twice in the theater and then watched it again at home!
20 - What are you currently working on?
I have a completed 540-page beast of a novel that I’ve been shopping for the last couple of years, but sadly, I think everyone is scared of it. I’m doing a fourth pass on a middle grade book that I’m really excited about that might have better luck in the next few months. Also, I just started two new novels, one leans more science fiction than I’ve ever done and the other is a bit more existential and influenced by some of the stuff I’ve been reading lately. I’m waiting to see which one finds its flow first. As for short stories, I have just begun a series of small stories influenced by physics and some of my science obsessions.