FDB Interview Spot - Spencer Bellamy


East Flatbush Projects - 'Hush'
yet to be released (10/30 Uproar, 2007)
When I recently wrote about a handful of producers whom I would love to have heard more from, I never expected any of them to get in contact. So when Spencer Bellamy, producer of the classic 'Tried By 12' dropped me a line in appreciation of the post, I jumped at the opportunity to ask him a few questions. Here's the chat we had where we cover Spencer's early exposure to hip hop in the late '80s all the way through to his current projects with his continuing East Flatbush Projects series and an upcoming album release.
From Da Bricks: I just want to start by saying it’s a real privilege to talk to you. I’ve been a fan for a while now.
Spencer Bellamy: Thank you, thank you.
FDB: I got a bunch of questions I want to ask you, but let’s start at the beginning with Howie Tee. How did that relationship come about?
SB: Well, I knew Howie from the time I was 11 years old. I used to DJ with Howie, that is how I first got into just doing stuff. I used to DJ and Howie used to hear about me and I had this friend that lived down the street that was in this crew. After that, he took me by his house, he was watching me cut up and after that it was history: playing at block parties and stuff like that. So, after a while, Howie started getting into production and I was watching the stuff that he was doing for like Whistle, Special Ed and Chubb and other people like the stuff he was doing with Full Force. I was kinda like his apprentice.
FDB: Right, so at what stage did you make the shift from DJ to producer?
SB: Probably in ‘87/’88.
FDB: Did you find that to be an easy transition?
SB: You know what? It was funny because at first all I used to do was collect records, stuff I wanted to use, so no, the transition wasn’t hard at all. I guess when you have an idea of what you want to do and the ear to put it down, to get your idea across then it’s pretty cool. I started off with the SP-1200 and the 950.
FDB: As far as I’m aware, your first proper production credits came about on the preC.I.S.E. MC album. Is that right?
SB: Yea, that was the first major project that I was doing. I was kinda like dabbling in doing productions. That year, I decided to just start shopping beats. I already knew Special Ed and Chubb’s management, so all I had to do was slide through and give them something. Basically, they liked my stuff and wanted to get me on the project.
FDB: I know that Izzy Ice [member of Da King & I] had a hand in that album. Did you have any affiliations with him?
SB: Oh yea! Yea, I was cool with him. In fact I was more cool with his DJ, Majesty.
FDB: Cool. I’d say ‘Tried By 12’ must be your most widely known piece of work. Where did you find the ‘Sakura’ break and was it a straight loop or did you chop it up?
SB: I chopped it up a little bit.
FDB: And where did you find it?
SB: Just in some little, dusty record shop in Bedstuy where a lot of people used to dig. It’s not there anymore, but that was a place we used to go just to pick up records.
FDB: Were you surprised by the impact that song had? For example, there’s the remix LP put out by Ninja Tune with producers like Squarepusher and Herbaliser that seems indicative of how big it was at the time for a substantial audience.
SB: Yea. You know I never had any idea of who those people were, so I didn’t know the importance and what level it was, you what I mean? I didn’t realise the importance of having those type of producers on it.
FDB: Looking back on it now, does it surprise you how big the original ‘Tried By 12’ song was?
SB: Yea, I was definitely surprised. It was funny because, you know, when you hear a song you get a good feeling about it, but I didn’t know that it was going to get to that level where everybody knew it as a hip hop classic. People had it in magazines as one of the top hip hop beats of all time. It’s funny though, because there are people that have still never heard that song who are then like ‘yea, that’s hot’.
FDB: Moving onto the other East Flatbush releases. One of the things you’re known for is picking little known MCs to feature on those records. How do you go about choosing the people who go on those songs?
SB: Just knowing somebody that knows somebody. There are a lot of people out here who rhyme. The way I found Stress and Dox was through a producer friend of mine called Needles. He basically hooked me up with Dox, and he was rhyming with Stress, so that’s how I find those two.
FDB: All of the material on your 10/30 Uproar label was really high quality, but in some way I’m surprised that you haven’t amassed a larger number of production credits over the last 15 years or so. Is there a specific reason for that?
SB: I’m surprised too! I don’t know why that is.
FDB: But you’ve been making beats the whole time?
SB: On and off. I think a part of it is me, and another part was frustration. I think when people shop beats, if you’re not known, people are going to be more critical. A good example would be Kanye West, when he started out shopping beats he was getting turned down. Once he got his first hit it all changed. Jay Z is an artist I have always respected because he gives a chance to new producers.
FDB: Is 10/30 Uproar still functioning? Is the new track ‘Hush’ going to be released on the label?
SB: Yea, that’s actually going to be on the album.
FDB: So there’s going to be an album?
SB: Yea, and another thing. There was some stuff that you would have no idea that I was putting stuff out all this time. From ’98, there was an East Flatbush song called ‘Everything We Spit Is Hard’ and then I put out a Ruste Juxx track.
FDB: Yea, I’ve heard those tracks. Wasn’t there the stuff with a crew called Live Wire as well?
SB: Yea, that was in like ’97. After that I put out something in 2001 with Ruste and Mirage Black called ‘Head To Head’. After that I put out ‘Head To Head 05’.
FDB: What about the ‘Inhale’ track on your MySpace?
SB: ‘Inhale’ is going to be something I’m going to release. I’ve been thinking about releasing that as a single with ‘Hush’ on the b-side.
FDB: That’d be great. You mentioned the album, any other projects in the pipeline?
SB: That’s all I have right now, working on the East Flatbush album with Stress, Dox and Fallon. It might be like one more person, but they’ll be the main three.
FDB: And how close it that to completion?
SB: It should be ready for early Spring.
FDB: Just to wrap things up, how do you feel about the changes in the industry now and the dawn of the digital era. Do you think that this has been good or bad for hip hop?
SB: In one way it’s good, as far as getting your stuff heard, but on the other hand it’s messing up album sales. Yo, Kanye sold close to a million in one week and then a week later he’s selling like 200,000. That’s like a 70% drop.
FDB: It’s crazy.
SB: That is crazy! Usually it’s like a 30% or 50% drop, not 70%. The same thing happened with Jay Z’s album, he had a big first week, then it dropped by 70% and it kind of just faded out. You know, those type of numbers, big to begin with and then fading out... I then heard that this coming week they may not even sell 100,000. How do you make a livin’?!
FDB: I don’t know man. I wish you all the best with the album and future projects, let me know when they’re going to drop.
SB: I will, I appreciate it man. Thanks.
Massive props go out to Spencer for taking the time to chat with me and for shining some light on a body of work that remains heavily slept on. Check out some of the new tracks at his MySpace page, 'Inhale' is definitely my choice cut out of the two he says will be released as a 12''.
Keep locked into FDB for more interview action in the near future. Feedback would be appreciated: I realise I'm no Robbie yet, so your thoughts and suggestions will be highly valued. Thanks in advance.



























