Blair : "No Running Commentary" Turns Into "No Fair Trial"
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Anonymous
said...
For all those lovers of Irish commentary on current affairs, we call in aid WB Yeats as well as DAC Yates. (Well, it is getting a bit serious, isn't it?)
A Tarnished PM Foresees His Moral Death
I know that I must meet with Yates At Chequers if not Downing Street Those who were friends, I cannot face Those who were foes will have me beat
My country is extremely cross My countrymen despise my name No likely end can spare me loss Or flood of tears wash clean my shame
Nor law, nor scruple did I heed Nor claims to be ‘whiter than white’ A sordid impulse of pure greed Drove me to steep my hands in shite
I balance all, bring all to mind The years of youth and hope and trust… ‘Straight kinda guy’ by all maligned My reputation, turned to dust
November 15, 2006 at 10:32 AM
Anonymous
said...
He should get himself a good lawyer, shouldn't he? I doubt he knows any...
November 15, 2006 at 10:37 AM
Anonymous
said...
this stuff is better than totty pics anyday.Keep it coming baby. By the way why no totty pics for the FSC bash? I'm glad I didn't go in that case.
November 15, 2006 at 10:38 AM
Anonymous
said...
Between this 'no fair trial' [because I'm feeding stuff to the media] and keeping Goldsmith is his 'get out of jail free' card i think teflon tony might just have got away with it - escaping the wrath of the voters might not be as easy
An excellent post. At the risk of being too pedantic could I ask for the slight blemish to be removed?
"re-introduced detention without trial, sort to remove jury trials in fraud cases and"...
'Sought', I think. But that's of minor importance.
It's interesting that Yates' so called 'security' has been stepped up. Is this 'security' actually the means of keeping an eye on what Yates is up to?
As to the 'Fix', well Goldsmith is still clinging on to his dubious position. David Davis needs to get on top of this one otherwise it'll all end up in the long grass of the Queen's Speech, yet more tinkering with legislation and general bullshit.
November 15, 2006 at 10:43 AM
Anonymous
said...
Is Tony Blair paying for his own lawyers, or is the Government, or is the Labour Party?
If the Government is paying for them then that is clearly unacceptable; if Labour is paying for them then that will be unacceptable to most Party members too - after all, it was they who were primarily conned about the source of Blair's campaign fund millions.
We should be told; perhaps someone could ask at the Lobby briefing?
November 15, 2006 at 10:45 AM
Anonymous
said...
Isn't the real danger here that Blair will spin out the saga for long enough that instead of the drip-drip being damaging, people less discriminating than readers of Guido will simply get bored ?
The court of public opinion will be far more damaging in the long run than Goldy bottling a decision to press charges at the last sec..
November 15, 2006 at 10:47 AM
Anonymous
said...
Time for Blair to retire to the library with his father's Smith & Wesson...........
November 15, 2006 at 10:52 AM
Anonymous
said...
Yes, who is paying for Blair's legal advice on this matter?
'No one is above the law' but he has tried to reduce the height and stature of the it to suit him self and his party. Regardless of the outcome of the fraud enquiry, he has left untold damage to yet another viable and working institution.
November 15, 2006 at 10:56 AM
Anonymous
said...
"No one is above the law."
"East of the Pecos, I am the Law."
Yippee ki-ay.
Been hanging around Bush too long, I think. Given him ideas above his station.
November 15, 2006 at 11:13 AM
Anonymous
said...
This ties in nicely with the legal opinion on www.impeachblair.org - that impeachment is still a valid procedure, that "Its use is appropriate where there is a prima facie case (i.e. a case to answer) of either crimes or serious breaches of constitutional principles." and that (referring to the Iraq war) "There is, on the material before us, a case to answer that the Prime Minister was guilty of a serious breach of constitutional principles."
And I believe that the Iraqi Justice Ministry is considering trying to extradite Blair and some others for trial in Iraq under Iraqi law and penalties for complicity in war crimes - wouldn't that be Real Justice!
Can we get him on all three - he deserves it!
November 15, 2006 at 11:19 AM
Anonymous
said...
the man is a lyin cunt.
November 15, 2006 at 11:20 AM
Anonymous
said...
NuLab have much experience on the old leaky front. The Met whilst semi-politicised is not going to screw this one up and have manure sprayed all over. Methinks we are seeing NuLab's spin and disinformation machine in turbo drive, attempting to pervert the course of justice.
November 15, 2006 at 11:31 AM
Anonymous
said...
Queens speech that I'd like to hear...
You're all a bunch of tossers who will be incarcerated in the tower at my pleasure. I'm returning this country to a Monarchy, now naff orf!
As you say Guido it's a big jump from No Running Commentary to rehearsing your defense line arguments.
November 15, 2006 at 12:06 PM
Anonymous
said...
He also removed the double jeopardy rule. So we can keep trying him until we get the right result.
November 15, 2006 at 12:09 PM
Anonymous
said...
I've never voted Labour in my life, but if any jittery Labour official out there want's background dirt on any of Yate's investigation team; enough to muddy the waters and taint the evidence - for a fee of course, not interested in a peerage or a bit of tin - then lets play ball.
Anonymous said... Time for Blair to retire to the library with his father's Smith & Wesson. Nice idea but tony banned them in 1997 the presided over a doubling in handgun crime. Everything this mong touches turns to shit
November 15, 2006 at 12:32 PM
Anonymous
said...
Blair's comment that he wouldn't get a fair trial after all the media speculation simply demonstrates the man's hubris.
Does he honestly think that there could be found 12 good men and true who didn't already consider him capable of almost any calumny? Even before this latest scandal bobbed to the surface of the cess pit that is his government?
The man surely is delusional.
November 15, 2006 at 12:38 PM
Anonymous
said...
Overheard a Downing St motormouth in Pont De La Tour , saying that the weekend red tops have a "worrying story" coming up. Any names anybody?
November 15, 2006 at 12:57 PM
Anonymous
said...
anonymous at 12.57 - this could be a subtle new way to spread disinformation, via a slightly raised voice in a fashionable restaurant. Think I might try it. It's more fun than posting here.
November 15, 2006 at 1:17 PM
Anonymous
said...
Using Blairs argument then surely Saddam Hussein was denied a fair trial? I seem to remember Tony and Dubya saying plenty of unkind things about the old quality street loving scoundrel prior to dropping bombs on the locals.
November 15, 2006 at 1:20 PM
Anonymous
said...
I would give a ball and a kidney to sit on a jury that had to decide whether or not he was guilty. Not sure who would want them or how this could be arranged , maybe Lord levy could help me out.
I think you'll find that would more likely be an "Enfield (or Webley) No2 Mk1".
November 15, 2006 at 1:35 PM
Anonymous
said...
The chips are pretty good at the Pont, but all the conversations I manage to overhear there are pretty banale. Usually it's money or sex, but sometimes it's money and sex - a touch more interesting.
Wiltons has a better class of tittle-tattle altogether. Anyone got other suggestions? If they're any good I might even go as far as turning my deaf-aid on.
Thank god (irony is not lost when you are a humanist) for Angus Brendan MacNeil, the young but energetic MP for Na h-Eileanan an Iar (Western Isles to everyone else), for exposing the Emperor's new clothes.
Cash for peerages has been going on for decades under Labour and Tory PMs (and probably the Lib Dems too), yet you have all sat back and turned a blind eye. Well hell mend ye.
No wonder the majority of Scots want out of the Mother of all Parliaments, because frankly she is becoming the whore of all democracies!
The Tartanhero
November 15, 2006 at 2:27 PM
Anonymous
said...
But, but...
Tony, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear... right?
November 15, 2006 at 2:42 PM
Anonymous
said...
It's not really cash for peerages though is it?
It's bribes for multi-million pound Government contracts. Blair is siphoning hundreds of millions of taxpayers money to businessmen who bankroll New Labour. Have you noticed how they're often foreign businessmen, largely Indian or jewish?
November 15, 2006 at 2:49 PM
Anonymous
said...
Anonymous said... Overheard a Downing St motormouth in Pont De La Tour , saying that the weekend red tops have a "worrying story" coming up. Any names anybody?
The Screws have got hold of Brown's rocking horse pics.
November 15, 2006 at 2:52 PM
Anonymous
said...
Its classic Blair tactic to shift the issue under discussion. Its called taking the carpet from under your feet. Its always worked for him. I hope that this is the exception that proves the rule.
Blair should really have gone into PR. He has run a Hill and Knowlton administration and still believes in what he is doing. How fucking deluded and corrupt this Capt Arsehole is. Horsewhipping is the only answer.
anon2:49 very true always a jew or an asian with their hand in the till. That or a thieving ginger haired welshman like sir christopher evans or all those evil evangelical christains setting up faith schools or worst of all the scots. mainly jews and asians though , I cant think of a single Anglo who has ever purchased a peerage.
It was John Major's shower who allowed inferences to be drawn from going no comment
November 15, 2006 at 4:56 PM
Anonymous
said...
Plenty of New Labour muppets on here today.
Must be they're running scared.
November 15, 2006 at 5:17 PM
Anonymous
said...
I ve got that pic of toady blur in a cell as my wallpaper makes me smile all the time.
November 15, 2006 at 6:21 PM
Anonymous
said...
i have lost the url of the larger version of that picture, of Bliar in a cell.
IIRC it was on a betting website. Anyone got the url?
November 15, 2006 at 7:41 PM
Anonymous
said...
"They" are in the process of removing juries from complex fraud trials. Hmm. A bit like this one.
So Falconer finds himself a tame judge to prosecute his former flatmate...let's say Brian Hutton...and said judge dispenses with the jury and finds Bliar "not guilty".
Either that, or Bliar's heart may start playing up big time, until the prosecution is dropped!
November 15, 2006 at 8:38 PM
Anonymous
said...
Who cares whether Blair gets a fair trial or not. I just want the man punished for something, it would be nice to see that false grin wiped of his face. He'll probabably get away with it as usual. Let's hope that Mr Yates has a plan B, he could always charge Blair with posession of an obscene wife or something. We live in hope but nothing will come of it all in the end.
It's ironic that this comes on the same day as the Queens Speech, which features new legislation "designed to put the victim at the heart of the justice system".
44 comments:
For all those lovers of Irish commentary on current affairs, we call in aid WB Yeats as well as DAC Yates. (Well, it is getting a bit serious, isn't it?)
A Tarnished PM Foresees His Moral Death
I know that I must meet with Yates
At Chequers if not Downing Street
Those who were friends, I cannot face
Those who were foes will have me beat
My country is extremely cross
My countrymen despise my name
No likely end can spare me loss
Or flood of tears wash clean my shame
Nor law, nor scruple did I heed
Nor claims to be ‘whiter than white’
A sordid impulse of pure greed
Drove me to steep my hands in shite
I balance all, bring all to mind
The years of youth and hope and trust…
‘Straight kinda guy’ by all maligned
My reputation, turned to dust
He should get himself a good lawyer, shouldn't he? I doubt he knows any...
this stuff is better than totty pics anyday.Keep it coming baby. By the way why no totty pics for the FSC bash? I'm glad I didn't go in that case.
Between this 'no fair trial' [because I'm feeding stuff to the media] and keeping Goldsmith is his 'get out of jail free' card i think teflon tony might just have got away with it - escaping the wrath of the voters might not be as easy
Get a good lawyer, you say ?
Guido,
An excellent post. At the risk of being too pedantic could I ask for the slight blemish to be removed?
"re-introduced detention without trial, sort to remove jury trials in fraud cases and"...
'Sought', I think. But that's of minor importance.
It's interesting that Yates' so called 'security' has been stepped up. Is this 'security' actually the means of keeping an eye on what Yates is up to?
As to the 'Fix', well Goldsmith is still clinging on to his dubious position. David Davis needs to get on top of this one otherwise it'll all end up in the long grass of the Queen's Speech, yet more tinkering with legislation and general bullshit.
Is Tony Blair paying for his own lawyers, or is the Government, or is the Labour Party?
If the Government is paying for them then that is clearly unacceptable; if Labour is paying for them then that will be unacceptable to most Party members too - after all, it was they who were primarily conned about the source of Blair's campaign fund millions.
We should be told; perhaps someone could ask at the Lobby briefing?
Isn't the real danger here that Blair will spin out the saga for long enough that instead of the drip-drip being damaging, people less discriminating than readers of Guido will simply get bored ?
The court of public opinion will be far more damaging in the long run than Goldy bottling a decision to press charges at the last sec..
Time for Blair to retire to the library with his father's Smith & Wesson...........
Yes, who is paying for Blair's legal advice on this matter?
'No one is above the law' but he has tried to reduce the height and stature of the it to suit him self and his party. Regardless of the outcome of the fraud enquiry, he has left untold damage to yet another viable and working institution.
"No one is above the law."
"East of the Pecos, I am the Law."
Yippee ki-ay.
Been hanging around Bush too long, I think.
Given him ideas above his station.
This ties in nicely with the legal opinion on www.impeachblair.org - that impeachment is still a valid procedure, that "Its use is appropriate where there is a prima facie case (i.e. a case to
answer) of either crimes or serious breaches of constitutional principles." and that (referring to the Iraq war) "There is, on the material before us, a case to answer that the Prime
Minister was guilty of a serious breach of constitutional principles."
And I believe that the Iraqi Justice Ministry is considering trying to extradite Blair and some others for trial in Iraq under Iraqi law and penalties for complicity in war crimes - wouldn't that be Real Justice!
Can we get him on all three - he deserves it!
the man is a lyin cunt.
NuLab have much experience on the old leaky front.
The Met whilst semi-politicised is not going to screw this one up and have manure sprayed all over.
Methinks we are seeing NuLab's spin and disinformation machine in turbo drive, attempting to pervert the course of justice.
Queens speech that I'd like to hear...
You're all a bunch of tossers who will be incarcerated in the tower at my pleasure. I'm returning this country to a Monarchy, now naff orf!
As you say Guido it's a big jump from No Running Commentary to rehearsing your defense line arguments.
He also removed the double jeopardy rule. So we can keep trying him until we get the right result.
I've never voted Labour in my life, but if any jittery Labour official out there want's background dirt on any of Yate's investigation team; enough to muddy the waters and taint the evidence - for a fee of course, not interested in a peerage or a bit of tin - then lets play ball.
anon 12:27 i would be interested in your contact details.
Anonymous said...
Time for Blair to retire to the library with his father's Smith & Wesson.
Nice idea but tony banned them in 1997 the presided over a doubling in handgun crime.
Everything this mong touches turns to shit
Blair's comment that he wouldn't get a fair trial after all the media speculation simply demonstrates the man's hubris.
Does he honestly think that there could be found 12 good men and true who didn't already consider him capable of almost any calumny? Even before this latest scandal bobbed to the surface of the cess pit that is his government?
The man surely is delusional.
Overheard a Downing St motormouth in Pont De La Tour , saying that the weekend red tops have a "worrying story" coming up. Any names anybody?
anonymous at 12.57 - this could be a subtle new way to spread disinformation, via a slightly raised voice in a fashionable restaurant. Think I might try it. It's more fun than posting here.
Using Blairs argument then surely Saddam Hussein was denied a fair trial?
I seem to remember Tony and Dubya saying plenty of unkind things about the old quality street loving scoundrel prior to dropping bombs on the locals.
I would give a ball and a kidney to sit on a jury that had to decide whether or not he was guilty.
Not sure who would want them or how this could be arranged , maybe Lord levy could help me out.
Annonymous 10:52
I think you'll find that would more likely be an "Enfield (or Webley) No2 Mk1".
The chips are pretty good at the Pont, but all the conversations I manage to overhear there are pretty banale. Usually it's money or sex, but sometimes it's money and sex - a touch more interesting.
Wiltons has a better class of tittle-tattle altogether. Anyone got other suggestions? If they're any good I might even go as far as turning my deaf-aid on.
The service is crap at Pont especially at lunch time...I think the waiters are still revocering from their previous nights shag....
Thank god (irony is not lost when you are a humanist) for Angus Brendan MacNeil, the young but energetic MP for Na h-Eileanan an Iar (Western Isles to everyone else), for exposing the Emperor's new clothes.
Cash for peerages has been going on for decades under Labour and Tory PMs (and probably the Lib Dems too), yet you have all sat back and turned a blind eye. Well hell mend ye.
No wonder the majority of Scots want out of the Mother of all Parliaments, because frankly she is becoming the whore of all democracies!
The Tartanhero
But, but...
Tony, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear... right?
It's not really cash for peerages though is it?
It's bribes for multi-million pound Government contracts. Blair is siphoning hundreds of millions of taxpayers money to businessmen who bankroll New Labour. Have you noticed how they're often foreign businessmen, largely Indian or jewish?
Anonymous said...
Overheard a Downing St motormouth in Pont De La Tour , saying that the weekend red tops have a "worrying story" coming up. Any names anybody?
The Screws have got hold of Brown's rocking horse pics.
Its classic Blair tactic to shift the issue under discussion. Its called taking the carpet from under your feet. Its always worked for him. I hope that this is the exception that proves the rule.
Blair should really have gone into PR. He has run a Hill and Knowlton administration and still believes in what he is doing. How fucking deluded and corrupt this Capt Arsehole is. Horsewhipping is the only answer.
anon2:49
very true
always a jew or an asian with their hand in the till.
That or a thieving ginger haired welshman like sir christopher evans or all those evil evangelical christains setting up faith schools or worst of all the scots.
mainly jews and asians though , I cant think of a single Anglo who has ever purchased a peerage.
Peter, I think LLoyd George sold a lot to the English...a sort of Welsh revenge..
offer the bugger the Lochabie option
Removing the right to silence?
It was John Major's shower who allowed inferences to be drawn from going no comment
Plenty of New Labour muppets on here today.
Must be they're running scared.
I ve got that pic of toady blur in a cell
as my wallpaper makes me smile all the time.
i have lost the url of the larger version of that picture, of Bliar in a cell.
IIRC it was on a betting website. Anyone got the url?
"They" are in the process of removing juries from complex fraud trials. Hmm. A bit like this one.
So Falconer finds himself a tame judge to prosecute his former flatmate...let's say Brian Hutton...and said judge dispenses with the jury and finds Bliar "not guilty".
Either that, or Bliar's heart may start playing up big time, until the prosecution is dropped!
Who cares whether Blair gets a fair trial or not. I just want the man punished for something, it would be nice to see that false grin wiped of his face. He'll probabably get away with it as usual. Let's hope that Mr Yates has a plan B, he could always charge Blair with posession of an obscene wife or something. We live in hope but nothing will come of it all in the end.
It's ironic that this comes on the same day as the Queens Speech, which features new legislation "designed to put the victim at the heart of the justice system".